07-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Apoc Wrote:Sounds to me like you track bikers can't handle information fairly well. Entering the braking zone of T1 at Summit Main 3 wide with 3 in front and 3 behind you at 150 mph and then come talk to me about "too much going on."
I'd imagine it gets pretty upsetting when you scratch your paint. Summit CCS/WERA races get 5-6 wide running through turn one on the first lap, I'm just glad I haven't been a part of that.
And I'm not arguing too much information, I'm arguing irrelevant information. You don't need mirrors at the track. If the guy behind you is faster, he'll pass you. If he isn't, who cares if he's there. Brake lights are just as useless. You're never looking at the bikes tail, so you'd never really see them any quicker than you'd notice the bike slowing down in your peripheral. But, it's a different scenario for braking because y'all can brake soo much harder than we can. So your world can be ended much quicker if the guy in front of you gets on the brakes before you expect.
rj Wrote:I can see not using the brake lights because a riders body language will tell you what he's doing on track, which cant be seen in a car. But it shouldnt throw you off to the point where you target fixate and run into the back of them.
Body position can reveal a person's intentions in the racer group of a motorcycle track day, it doesn't always do it in the intermediate/beginner group. Because they may ride still sitting somewhat upright down a straight, especially a shorter one. So sometimes you have to look for a raising rear/diving front end or just pay attention to the fact that they're getting bigger fast.
And Apoc, you're pretty right. It's kind of unfair to compare car racing to moto track days. Obviously y'all that race know a hell of a lot more about what you're doing and you're also that much more concerned because you're competitive. Whereas on moto track days, unless you're in the expert/advance/racer group, you could be there just to have fun and speed without worries of a speeding ticket. That's honestly why I'm applying to get my racing license, to get out of Intermediate groups and to get into groups with more consistent riding so I can work on my consistency.
And maybe to impress Kaan's mom.