07-18-2006, 05:52 PM
.RJ Wrote:stevegula Wrote:it doesn't have a competitor to promote with it
Ninja 650....
I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about older/used bikes.
Quote:Just about any 90's 600cc sportbike (F2/F3, GSXR, FZR, ZX6, etc) falls in the same category of cheap, easily tracked starter bike as well. There are plenty of good choices out there.
But they're heavier than the SV, and generate more power than the bikes we've been talking about (SV/GS500/EX500) and because they're older they're likely to require maintenence before getting anywhere. Kind of like Kaan's bike.
Quote:If the guy on the faster bike cant negotiate going in a straight line past a slower bike then he shouldnt be out there at all.
Closing speed is a bitch. And when you're negotiating several bikes and you come on a suddenly slower bike that you hadn't seen, you're in a risky situation. I know it's the responsiblity of the passing rider, but really I'd rather just not be on the slow slow bike that's at risk of being rear ended. My personal favorite is when the slow slow bike adjusts their line and ends up on my line, but I'm going much too fast to brake without hitting them so I get completely alter my line. That's always a riot.
And fwiw, on the Internet I speak rather assertively. It's not that I believe that much in what I'm saying (atleast not all of the time), it's just because I typically right a tad formally so it comes off as seeming like I believe in something so much it may as well be carved in stone. Or I just come off as compeletely arrogant. So I'll just reiterate what I was trying to get at from the beginning but didn't make much of an effort to say -
Atleast on this board, most of the people here are intelligent and responsible enough to know motorcycling isn't safe. So most of the people here aren't going to do anything particularly stupid, even on a fast bike. So I don't really think there's a need to start with something below an older 600 or SV650 for most of the people here. I know there are exceptions, I feel like I read someone on here tried to do wheelies almost immediately after they bought their motorcycle and crashed, high five on that. Anyway, so if you already know the risks, and want a bike to learn on as well as track, why not just go ahead and get a bike that when you take to the track you won't feel bad about.
Most people I wouldn't even go so far as to recommend an SV650, but this is a different crowd. And most people here aren't lying to themselves when they say they intend to do something with a vehicle or say they know they won't do something with a vehicle.