06-29-2006, 04:43 PM
G.Irish Wrote:That's the thing, HC wouldn't have grown so quickly without the crossover.you guys keep saying this but I just dont buy it. HC grew quickly because there was a very strong and very enthusiastic core of racers (most of which were not scca crossovers) that i listed in my previous post. SCCA guys filled out a few spots to see what the hubub was about, but it wasnt the core of the series.
Remember a couple years ago when we were chatting about the club, and how most new clubs die out after the first wave of founding officers graduates? Same thing here. Lots of enthusiasm from the founders, after that it easily trails off.
Quote:NASA has to think about all of the classes true, but part of the reason they got the deal in the first place was because of the two most popular classes: American Iron and HC.eh....Im not convinced HC is one of the most popular classes, ...you look at numbers from a lot of the other series and they are right up there if not past the HC numbers. and AI was spec toyo from the beginning, toyo didnt need this deal to get on that gravy train
Quote:SCCA SM has a spec tire deal too but you don't see SCCA forcing EVERYONE to use Toyos.true, but a scca SM field is larger than all the nasa classes put together.....but I think ultimately we are seeing the negatives of a for-profit organization. For years we were told about all the advantages. Customer driven, listen to input (ironic...), etc. But in the end they are there to make money, so corporate deals are goign to be a given. Does that make it right? or ok? maybe, maybe not, but it shouldnt surprise you. Just like SCCA pro inking spec tire deals, we probably should have seen it coming.
Quote:Why should a series that overwhelmingly doesn't want a spec tire
be forced to use one so that a bunch of smaller series can get the deal? Seems to me that the smaller series would be getting a deal they didn't deserve to the detriment of a series that was already popular.
other regions especially west coasters would disagree with the overwhelming part, but I wouldnt necessarily disagree with you except for the fact i think you are overstating the popularity of HC. Maybe you just have had tunnelvision for HC and paid attention to all the ht threads and everything, but its not nearly the biggest game in town.
Quote:The thing is that there was already a problem with the rules and this whole thing exacerbated that problem. Kinda like how the colonies were already having a problem with British rule but the Tea and Stamp taxes pushed them over the line.almost all that rules dicking was with h1, but h2-h5 have seen the biggest attrition, and h1 is the strongest class.
Quote:The BS was a lot of things that put people off. It didn't have to be a rule change or nonsense that affected your car specifically, just something that shook your confidence in the leadership and direction of the series. There's a reason 944 Cup opted not to be a national series.im not convinced. not everyone read HT. you may have been deep into the politics of it, but not everyone was even aware of it especially those scca crossovers you guys keep talking about