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G.Irish Wrote:The Toyo deal doesn't screw you guys over because

A. You are in a spec class and your tire size is abundant (for the most part).
tire availability is certainly a valid point. when SCCA went to spec toyos nationally, they worked into the deal a legally binding commitment for Toyo to produce enough tires to fill demand. NASA would be stupid not to have done something similar.

Quote:B. The spec tire deal doesn't make it more difficult for SM people to crossover from SCCA. A lot of HC entrants are ITA, ITB, or ITC crossovers.
perhaps, but scca crossovers are almost definately not the core constituents of a nasa field, you have very few scca racers who run a full nasa season, and thus it is not who nasa is marketing to. I dont blame them. You cant make large business decisions based on a few racers. Remember, the toyo deal is for all of nasa.

Quote:C. You didn't have a good contingency deal in the first place.
and like i said earlier, there was no gaurantee that the kuhmo deal would have continued.

Quote:D. You haven't had to endure 3 years of NASA National dicking around with the rules and screwing something up that was already successful. A lot of the discontent has to do with the way rules have been dropped with little notice and no official member-driven input process. Sure, its their for-profit organization, they can make whatever rules they want but if you're gonna have a motorsports dictatorship you'd better make sure you get the rules right.
completely off the subject of tires. valid points but it has no bearing on the tire issue. If thats of concern it should be addressed separately (although along with)

Quote:E. Spec Miata in NASA was never as big as ECHC was. If you guys lost 50% of your field you'd be upset too.
thats not a good comparison. ECHC is 5 classes, SM is 1. I dont think ECHC has ever consistently had 12+ cars in a single class like we do in SM. A lot of the early years of HC were fruitful due to the momentum that the founders and the people behind the class brought with it. Once that core group started to thin, there werent as many people excited about the class to fill in. This is pretty common

Quote: It would be one thing if people were having financial trouble but the simple fact is a lot of people got tired of the B.S. and went to ITA.
the thinning of the classes started before most of the "B.S." (especially in h4, where there has been minimal rules creep) so I dont really take nasa as the lone reason for that

dont get me wrong here, Im not drinking the nasa kool-aid but im not going to nasa bash either when its not deserved.
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