06-07-2006, 02:05 AM
Evan Wrote:Ryan T Wrote:[Ok Ryan, but how did you expect for me to take "If the RX-8 has the best top-end of any car that you've driven then you really need to drive some real sports cars, because the top end of the rx-8 is far from impressive."
Spot on, pretty much every car in its price range can out accelerate it and most get better fuel economy.
Evan, I was hoping you wouldn't resort to personal attacks..."used to jacking off over mad tiiiite dyno supras dawg", come on. I didn't mean to push any of your buttons with my post, and if I did I apologize.
Perhaps "real sports cars" wasn't the best phrase to use, I should have said cars with real power. I have no doubt the rx-8 could bust some ass around a road course, but the power leaves MUCH to be desired, especially when you can have more performance and better fuel economy for less money.
You need to learn the difference between "You are wrong and you dont know anything!" and "I disagree"
As I already said you should know better than to justify a statement with a street race, Im not sure what kind of response you expected with that. You gave me flashbacks to the good old days of Travis flaming.
I hate magazine racing, but since its already been brought up (although without references of course :roll, On Top Gear the RX-8 matched the 350Z time while being easier to drive and more consistent. Someone explain to me how that is much less performance? The car has no balls before 5k, which on a test drive (or a fat 45 year old magazine journalist review) is going to fell pretty damn slow. But last I checked, we were motorsports enthusiasts, not fat middle aged men. Personally I love high revving engines. It comes alive around 5.5 and yes, it pulls like crazy all the way to 9k. Its a driver's car, it has a relatively low weight considering the pigs being built today, it has a real LSD and is completely balanced. I guess you guys would rather have low drag times to brag to your friends about than a real drivers car. How sad.
Fuel economy I cant speak for, but Allison hasn't complained too much about her's, although I wouldnt be surprised if it isnt the best. The suspension is more solid than a WRX's, and feels just as stiff as a STi.
And dont mistake me for a rotary fanboi. I have always hated them, especially when I get stuck behind one on a racetrack.
ps- google video didnt turn up the top gear rx-8 segment, but i have it at home in case anyone wants to see it
You are first off ignoring that I TESTED MYSELF EVERY ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES and yes I did beat up on them. I stand by my statements, dont bullshit and tell me I only read or saw or heard something.
Second, in that Top Gear Episode of the RX-8, where Tish (or whatever his name was) says that the car's suspension is way too soft and is nowhere near the sporty suspension it should be.
Yes, real LSD? And what would that be? Whats your definition of an LSD??? VLSD? Torsen? 2-way? Clutch-Type? OR wait...this is what Mazda says off its LSD....its a Super LSD, no bullshit that is on their official press release of the vehicle....Super LSD. hahahah. Oh and weight? 3000lbs is not exactly lightweight. Why dont you shove that whole thinking out of your head.... The rx-8 has less power and weighs more than an s2000 for the same price. A 350z is a heavy and non-track car, its way too heavy, yet....it still is around the same times as the rx-8? Thats pretty good, considering the only advantage to rotary at this time (since fuel consumption and horsepower is not as great) is the lightweight of it.....yet it is "keeping up" with this heavy ass brute the 350z, which I even said was slow and way too heavy. Jesus my car is 3100 pounds, with AWD, all the same features as the rx-8 (leather sunroof, 8 speaker audio, 4 seats) and has around the same horsepower. Yet mine has awd and better fuel consumption. Goddamn even 6 years technological time has gone by and it doesnt even have a better drag coefficient of my car (.29-.30 depends on review). The rx-8 is just another useless technological toy that will fall to the wayside while the rx-7 was light, had a much better tracl suspension, and had way more horsepower. Yeah, it burns oil, so does the rx-8, look in the owner's manual. The fuel consumption? Who cares when the rx-7 was so fast in straight-line and corners? Rx-8s saving grace????? NOTHING! A fat brute posts the same track times, is much faster straight line, gets better gas mileage, and can be worked on any mechanic in the known world.....Thumbs down to the rx-8. Cool, but nevertheless a complete failure in what should have been a lighter, 2 door car with more power and a suspension paired with lighter components.