01-12-2006, 06:53 PM
No offense, and I know your very respected around this community, that comment was as I said sixty times in the post because I was not trying to start something, that you having driving experience in a few cars and maybe being able to drive those cars very well, does not mean that you automatically know how to drive every car just because of a few variables that are common in all cars.
I am not saying vehicle dynamics and weight transfer and physics are throw out the window. In fact I never said anything of the like. However, the way you come in aand out of a turn differs on different cars.
IF you do not drive a rwd car you can understeer, fwds can oversteer.
I have no problem, and actually I havent ever had a problem with understeer on my car, in fact I have a little oversteer on the car.
I respect you and I consider this a discussion but your statement:
"its a car. It has a steering wheel and 4 tires." was boldy vague and from your posts.
And your statement that you have enough seat time in the car to know its a front heavy understeering pig and that you would know the car's dynamics and handling characteristics better than someone who owns one is very bold indeed.
I would like to point out something for your information. Greg Collier, a DSM, has won the SCCA unlimited SOCA class 2 years in a row being on track with ferraris, corvettes and other such cars. OH and to make it better, he is a FWD dsm. I guess he is stupid for picking such a bad platform.
PS- I Am surprised to hear you try to even bash an awd car for understeering (according to you) when you drive an integra. Not saying its a bad car, but its fwd and that thing (yes driven and have had seat time in them plenty) understeers, but can also be neutral. But it does have a lot more understeer than an awd dsm.
I am not saying vehicle dynamics and weight transfer and physics are throw out the window. In fact I never said anything of the like. However, the way you come in aand out of a turn differs on different cars.
IF you do not drive a rwd car you can understeer, fwds can oversteer.
I have no problem, and actually I havent ever had a problem with understeer on my car, in fact I have a little oversteer on the car.
I respect you and I consider this a discussion but your statement:
"its a car. It has a steering wheel and 4 tires." was boldy vague and from your posts.
And your statement that you have enough seat time in the car to know its a front heavy understeering pig and that you would know the car's dynamics and handling characteristics better than someone who owns one is very bold indeed.
I would like to point out something for your information. Greg Collier, a DSM, has won the SCCA unlimited SOCA class 2 years in a row being on track with ferraris, corvettes and other such cars. OH and to make it better, he is a FWD dsm. I guess he is stupid for picking such a bad platform.
PS- I Am surprised to hear you try to even bash an awd car for understeering (according to you) when you drive an integra. Not saying its a bad car, but its fwd and that thing (yes driven and have had seat time in them plenty) understeers, but can also be neutral. But it does have a lot more understeer than an awd dsm.