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(09-24-2020, 11:46 AM)D_Eclipse9916 Wrote: You are repeating what I said in your quoted.  Can I ask what your point is?  

Yes, terrible savings account; but it's a social safety net, not an investment.  The more you make the less benefit you receive, which is kind of the point.  SS has never been touted as a high return investment.  SS paying out to widows, disabled and those who can barely pay for their rent, nevertheless into their IRAs is a gift that helps lift many out of poverty who would otherwise go destitute. And come on the payouts are just barely enough to keep rent paid, its not like their going to aruba.  Plus unlike other social programs, they pay directly into it while they work and benefits are proportional to how much they put in!

Once again, it's the inability for some to emphasize with those less fortunate. Some don't realize how difficult it is for the less fortunate to invest/save, let alone even have access to a reliable institution to do so. Remove SSA and, as you mentioned, those people then become reliant on government that is even less ready for that burden. But, i guess, "fuck you, i got mine."

(09-24-2020, 11:53 AM)G.Irish Wrote:
(09-24-2020, 10:46 AM)HAULN-SS Wrote:
(09-24-2020, 10:05 AM)G.Irish Wrote:
(09-24-2020, 08:49 AM)HAULN-SS Wrote: Are you implying the FBI wasn't involved and incompetent? I think that is the willfully ignorant part. Read the timeline of events in the Horowitz report. Then remember every time you see Carter pages name that he was working for the CIA and the guy that changed an email saying he wasn't plead guilty just lately for making the change. https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/d...rowitz.pdf

They absolutely did not want him to become President. We don't have to wonder if it happened.

I meant exactly what I said.  The FBI is responsible for counterintelligence investigations, the FBI launched a properly predicated investigation into the Trump campaign due to suspicious contacts with Russian nationals, and as a result of that investigation, 7 members of the Trump campaign have been convicted of crimes.

The Horowitz report disputes none of that.  It says that the FBI made omissions and errors in fact in obtaining FISA warrants, particularly in the case of Carter Page.  Page was not a source for the CIA since 2013.  The Horowitz report states clearly that there was a proper predicate for the investigation and that the investigation was not started due to political bias.

The worst you can say is that FBI agents conspired against Carter Page to surveil him when they might not have had enough justification to do so had they not cooked their FISA applications.

You keep saying properly predicated, but the whole investigation was fruit of the poisonous tree. Agents willfully ignored the fact that the predicated was DNC paid for opposition research. It has been proven that even the primary sourcing in the Steele dossier said that he and some buddies got drunk and tried to figure out how to get as much money as possible out of Steele.
Clearly you did not read the Horowitz report.

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