02-06-2020, 11:52 AM
(02-06-2020, 10:54 AM)CaptainHenreh Wrote:(02-06-2020, 10:49 AM)Kaan Wrote: most of the interviews i have caught ... they Senators werent talking about what constituents want for the impeachment, but how they feel on it. neither of those is correct in the grand scheme, they needed to vote on the evidence.... they are essentially supposed to be the impartial jury, that we know isnt impartial.
Well impeachment and removal from office is a political process, not a judicial one. Did you read the article I posted? I really did think it was quite good.
It was always a political process, and was called out in the federalist papers, even. I'm fine with that, and I never really expected Trump to be removed.
What I am not fine with is the way the senators conducted themselves. If there had been an open discussion, across party lines, about what this means and does it clear the bar for removal - I would be ok with whatever the outcome was. But that’s not what happened and the republicans buried their heads in the sand, attacked the process, lied, and grand stranded with bullshit like claiming they were shut out and storming into a SCIF with cell phones. All so they can continue to kill bills in the senate and push their shit agenda. The senators first admitted they didn’t follow the House proceedings, or read the documents, declared they were in lockstep with the president, and yet also stated there was nothing to learn in the trial. There was no engagement in good faith to get to the truth and fulfill the oaths they made.
I guess we will see in November what backlash, if any, the republicans will face. At the moment, they are fumbling the football hard and cant get their game together - focusing on "not trump" only puts more focus on him and we'll get 4 more years of it. Change the narrative, please, and put the conversation back to real issues that will help real americans. There are large swaths of this country that are not in good shape - and they arent any better off than they were 4 years ago.