(05-20-2019, 12:25 PM)ScottyB Wrote: being exiled to beyond the wall is not only pointless, since the Night's Watch is functionally irrelevant, but again totally disregards his legacy and his character as the Shield of Men. He was the guy we rooted for because he had all the honorable qualities of Ned Stark but the experience in battle to understand the true cost of war. The lesson here is dedication to the protection of the realm gets you sent to a frozen wasteland.Agree 100%
(05-20-2019, 12:32 PM)Apoc Wrote: They spent a lot of time building up that Jon never felt like he belonged anywhere. No matter how much people told him he was a Stark, he never felt like a Stark. It appears he felt the same about being a Targaryen. He appeared most at home with Ygritte and the Wildlings.
I'm not saying season 8 was good, but I can see how his character would actually appreciate his fate.
I agree, Jon's quest for identity and family was one of the driving themes of the show. He was an extension of Ned Stark, and the show would not have worked if he were not.
But they fucked up the ending because the show *DIDNT* end with his identity and family resolved.
The wildlings were not his family or identity, and Ygritte's death was the symbol of that.
The show made pretty clear that he was a Targaryen and thats where he belonged, I mean he rode a dragon FFS. Falling in love with Dany, the dragon riding rom-com, and the discovery he is actually a Targaryen was the signal that he *had* found his family and his identity.
When he was sent to the wall, the exact phrasing was "life sentence", thats not a positive thing.
There was no lightbulb moment for him that "this is where I belong". He was in extreme distress that he was being banished, there was no contentment or appreciation in his character whatsoever. What is his purpose now?
Its not a horror movie, you dont HAVE to have a crazy plot twist, especially when it betrays everything you have built to that point. Ive never heard anyone complain about the ring still going into the fire in lord of the rings.
I think a good end story would have been;
After the King's Landing BBQ when Dany and Jon meet in the Iron Throne newly renovated rooftop deck, Jon talks to her and she realizes her hubris and how she went crazy and lived up to her familial reputation.
She sacrifices her status as sole Queen (only thing she has wanted), and offers to rule together with Jon 50/50.
So Jon keeps her in check, ends the "endless war" she talked about earlier, and everyone lives happily ever after.
Except Tyrion, we get a 1 on 1 with him and Dany about how despite his best efforts he ended up being loyal to his family above all. Off goes his head. (there is your twist!)
Sansa still gets to secede because somehow being abused a lot makes you a good leader. Or something.
Since Dany is barren thanks to the witch, no worry of incest babies, and they can keep the "break the wheel: no more hereditary succession" bit