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(01-09-2019, 04:49 PM)ScottyB Wrote: i guarantee you, if an I-81 toll ever went through, it would force enough traffic onto 11 that the local constabulary would get Lucky-In-Vegas rich overnight writing the inevitable speeding tickets in every 1-light town between Front Royal and Christiansburg.

the toll idea absolutely pisses me off.  at least in Roanoke - most folks with the white collar, healthcare, and management jobs already live in town and commute a couple miles.  the blue collars are the ones coming in from Hollins, Christiansburg, Troutville, etc to make ends meet.  they're getting boned enough paying to fuel their 45-60 minute commutes.  the trucks are the problem, every time.  make them pay, and then give us the 3rd lane we've been asking for since forever.  and frankly, they don't REALLY pay in the end, the cost just gets passed on to their clients/wholesalers, which we then pay for in marginal amounts.

Scotty wins post 666...

you are absolutely right with your perspective, these blue collar folks have a hard time paying a speeding ticket sometimes. BUT philosophically Rex is right (the lesser of two evils is the toll)... no matter how you shake it, its going to cause pain in communities from Clear Brook to Bristol.

I cant wait to here the complaints for the moms and dads going to visit timmy and jenny at ALL the colleges on I-81.

In the northern SV, the "tourism" is the blue ridge parkway, etc. but the real growth in towns lately has been the booze. its going cost tourists more to get the beer and the beer is going to cost more (they are all exclusively using grains from I81 and a maltster of I81)...  

this was all caused IMHO by poor planning on the politicians part. NOW, since they planned poorly, they come back to the well for more money. Things have to change... you have to have legit long term planning on all levels of government... how to pay for it, how to upgrade it, how to maintain it... and we shouldn't stand for any money shifting stuff without clearly outlined "rules."

RJ pointed out on my facebook rant (I almost never post political stuff, unless you count my gun posts as political like facebook does)... old man GK said "oh well these toll roads go away once they are paid for" ... RJ responded with something like "well the Dulles Toll road is going strong... its not going anywhere, its now tied to the metro."

You know whats next... they HAVE to raise the toll road price because they cant afford to pay for metro and maintain that road. whatever politician agreed to that should be run out of town, tarred and feathered.

The last several pages are people jumping on us "anti-tax" folks. well its coming to roost. this is the slippery slope.... and you are watching it evolve (quickly) in NOVA and western VA. This is what we are against. Give an inch and the people in Richmond will take a mile. And its true in every county, every state, and at the federal level.

Politicians need real plans for spending money, for starting projects, etc. All they are doing is spending money they don't have at our expense.
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