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(01-04-2019, 02:54 PM)CaptainHenreh Wrote:
(01-04-2019, 02:46 PM)G.Irish Wrote: I too, would like to see the foundation of Libertaria.

In Libertaria, there would be no taxes.  You only pay for the things you want to pay for.

How does property get decided?  Well you can pay into a property collective that will draw your property boundaries and ensure that no one else annexes your property.  If you let your property fee lapse for even one second, someone else can just declare your property there's and it's up to you to settle it with bullets or rochambeau.

What about infrastructure?  Every road would be a toll road.  Power lines, plumbing, telecom are all done by private companies who can charge the market rate.  Hopefully those companies are up to date on their annual property bill, otherwise someone else could seize their assets.  

Law enforcement?  If you pay your annual law enforcement and justice fee, the police will come if you call them.  If someone commits a crime against you, they go to jail, but only for as long as you pay your LE fee. The cost of the jail, courts, and police would have to be tallied and divided up amongst only those who want those services.  Anyone who doesn't pay their LE fee is on their own.  If you pay your LE fee after the crime is committed, you've got to pay for the apprehension, trial, and imprisonment of the criminal out of pocket.

Medical insurance would just be whatever companies want to charge, with whatever terms they want.  Hopefully you have enough money to get what you need in that environment.

The toughest thing would be stuff that falls into externalities.  Libertaria would be a great place for business because there'd be no regulations.  Businesses could pollute as much as they want, have no employee safety, discriminate at will, and the market would be left to correct all that, or not.

Finally, you only get a vote, if you pay for your share of election expenses.  No pay, no vote.  But to the extent that any elected government creates laws, only people who pay for the enforcement of those laws gets to enjoy them.

Libertaria would have to get started by some rich guys who buy some land from some country willing to sell, then they'd have to set up the laws and all of the totally voluntary government entities.  Would probably be a great place to be a rich person or have a mega corporation.  Probably very inefficient and shitty for people of normal means.  

No one is stopping the people who don't believe in the fundamental concept of taxes from starting their own country.  Would be a great experiment, but I suspect few would really want to take the risk of living that way.

Reducto ad absurdum, yes, that's fine. Now show me who is advocating for that? In this thread? Anywhere? 

What I want is more voluntary participation, less coercion. More freedom, less bureaucracy. A recognition that "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness," maybe.

(01-04-2019, 01:51 PM)Apoc Wrote: Or voting Libertarian and building a local government that enacts policies that push us in this direction.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project
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