Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!)

[Jewels]

See I think the 1st and 2nd generation don't want tougher immigration laws, they want the current laws enforced the way they used to be. Get here on the right visa, do what you need to do, and you are here... that still happens today.

Today, illegal immigration doesnt cross the southern border in mass by crossing the river. Today the issue is overstaying a visa. They literally come here legally and just over stay. 30 years ago they were scared to death to overstay a visa (this is the hang up the 1st and 2nd generation people I know have). There is no fear today, the attitude is "catch me if you can." Is this okay? that's up for debate.

Would you overstay your visa in another country? probably not, because you would get caught on your way home and depending on the country, the punishment isn't fun. Getting caught on an overstay in the US is a free trip home and a couple days in a facility (much different from border jumpers).

our current immigration system is not something you want to mess with. it is corrupt on every single level and the machine was built by both sides of the isle. Politics of judges, privatization of the detention facilities (and the infrastructure they use), "charities" that get government money/your money to "help"... its a serious hot mess.

simply put (and people wonder why its taken me so long to get on track and chase my dreams)... my biological father was in the system for 7 years (with no resolution) and I stopped counting the money I spent when I reach $80k.

TGIF, its slow at work today...

And yet, the public narrative that the GOP yells about is The Wall and The Caravan because it makes for sexier TV and is easier for the mouth-breathing Trump supporters to comprehend.

Kaan, your post is insightful and makes a whole lot of sense. The people clamoring for The Wall would have been utterly baffled by the second sentence.

I think this whole conversation sums up why its hard to be a Moderate or a Moderate Conservative these days.  While I'm pretty right leaning on a lot of things, the shit show that is the GOP and conservativism today is embarrassing first and terrifying second and mostly.  I'm over it all. Like Kaan said, let both sides burn, I got nothing.