Help Me Buy A Car Thread v.ScottyB: WITNESS ME BROTHERS

[WRXtranceformed]

one thing that sucks about living down here - trucks don't really depreciate much. i think in my area its literally 3 trucks for every 1 or 2 cars. our local ford dealer, if you check out the current inventory, has almost 60% F150s and then the rest is Ford's other 8 or 9 vehicles.

i'd love a raptor and would bend my "no autos" rule to own one, but if i had one i'd want to hoon it in the dirt all the time, not just sometimes. someday when i get some property in the mountains its going to happen.

VW dealers are just being all-around shitbirds. all of them. all the same story, "oh our discount prices are unbeatable, we need these gone, you won't believe it, we'll work with you" and then by the time you talk OTD price they start balking and dump another $2500 worth of fees and dealer markups on you which defeats the entire premise of buying the car for me. if they were willing to play the 0% AND discounted list price game, like they advertised, then i'd be all over these things. but its a bait and switch tactic to try to rope suckers like me to getting on the phone and getting into the showrooms so i'll fall in love with a car and overpay for it. not happening.

its amazing how much these dealers DON'T want to talk numbers over email. they want to call, sweet talk you, beg you to get into a showroom. come drive it, you'll love it! they want you in their building where they can control the circus.

at this point i'm pretty much giving up on it. i have a local dealer that has some cars on the lot, is much lower pressure, and was willing to price match but they don't actually have what i want color-wise. i also get the sense the sales team likes using the "good cop bad cop" tactic with the GM, the way they've been talking to me "yeah i want to make something work, we'll just have to see what the manager says, i can't call the shots". yeah OK, call me when you're out of parking spots for those shiny 2018's....

Car dealer sales experiences really are complete trash for the most part. I personally relish it, coming from a sales background, because it's so broken and long/drawn out. There are a few dealers here, mostly Toyota dealerships, that are mirroring the CARMAX "no haggle" process. The price is what it is, sales people are on salaries with a bonus tied to overall sales so the pressure is low. Wish more would move to that kind of model, assuming that the pricing is not fixed at a super high level.