04-18-2017, 11:51 AM
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Apoc Wrote:The issue is you're thinking of MSRP as the market price - it's not. The market price is what people will pay for it, regardless of how much it cost to produce or who is making the margin. I mean, we don't complain when we get things under MSRP... right?
yes, except the dealer's markup isn't market price either.
When I was FlexShopping, I was in deep negotiations with a dealer on a used one. Not even a new one, but a used one. So he had a line on one and proceeds to pull the following:
"So this is book retail, this is what it's going to cost me to run it through CPO, and then this is the market adjustment..."
Whoa whoa, hol' up. You just gonna tell me "Yeah, this right here is where I'm gonna make my next boat payment"? His right to do, of course. But then the price came out to be 7k more than the one I bought...with fewer miles. I'm not gonna just give you 7 grand because you've got a good handshake. So the "market adjustment" wasn't really, if I could get the same car 7k less?
Had to deal with the same bullshit when I went WRX shopping. "Oh but this car is rare blah blah blah so we marked it up 10%" Ok that's nice, I'll pay MSRP and not a dime over. "Well I just can't help you, then." Cue me rolling up in an STI instead of a WRX for the same money.
Had the same issue when shopping for my Ralliart.
"Hey I can get this car for way cheaper if I just drive 300 miles but I'd rather not, let's make a deal"
"But, SIR this is a super ultra rare 2011 RALLIART. I assure it's worth every dime."
"Did ... you not listen to a word I said? It's not even an EVO what are you smoking?"
Bought a 2013 with a 1/4 of the miles for like $3,000 more because it was the slowest car on their lot and they actually wanted to move it.