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those are a very good bet. i've wanted RCE Blacks for a while now....not only does the spring rate work better than others for stock valving but you're also going to get some side benefits out of a more sane ride height, like a better camber curve, more grip on most street surfaces, and less stress on the rear drive shafts which i've heard like to blow out on the lowered cars.

Yep, just other reasons why I want to go this route. I'm lowered almost 1.75" I have a 1-2 finger gap. I've gotten used to driving low, but I don't like it. I wanted to raise the car, but the locking collars are seized. That was the first problem I've had with the coilovers. I stopped caring for them about a year and a half ago. Also, I wanted to get whiteline roll center correctors (?) but that would bump me out of STX for autocross (not that I really care all that much anyway since I do it for fun). In regards to the axles, I had a clicking noise about a year ago... turns out it was a loose axle nut, so I dodged that bullet. Mechanically, this car has been solid. Every problem I've had has been with a specific mod I've done. Other than that, no issues whatsoever. I don't know how people blow up their motors or rip through clutches at 12,000 miles. I haven't exactly been the sweetest to this car, so it beats me, haha. :dunno:

don't both rebuilding, the foundation is going to remain the same problem - cheap materials that will wear out in another 3 years and you'll be kicking yourself twice for missing your chance to start fresh with a quality setup.

give Feal a look.
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they are a legit suspension builder and know how to valve shocks right for strut setups. the 441's are a good entry level street/track choice and should last well.

Yeah, I wasn't going to rebuild at all. It would cost a significant amount, for what it is. Money better spent elsewhere. And I've heard good things about Feal. They got into the game with this car a little late. My only issue is that they're still on the cheaper end (yes, I know ST is "cheap" as well)...but we all know how that market works... cough cough, BC, cough. "they're great!" "best option out there!" "such a big performance increase even though I only have subjective data!" .... every entry level system is "good" so to speak, but not enough people have Feal for this car to really make me say "ok, i'll give them a try." I was one of the first handful to have a setup from Fortune Auto for this car. They've since moved on to the version 5. They were supposed to be good, but they just didn't last me. I don't want to jump in with them and have this same outcome. Regardless, Feal isn't the option I want to take down the road. My only considerations now are systems with an MSRP of $2000+. (doesn't mean that I will pay full retail, though, lol). I'd go for a spring/strut combo before I'd go for another "entry" coilover.

Koni

That would be good if was looking into struts as well...and if the setup with springs didn't cost $1000. This is just a temporary thing to hold me till I can properly setup the suspension, so $300 and springs matched to the OEM strut sounds much better than $1000. I don't have to worry about the struts failing since the setup is essentially OEM, so I'm not going to get struts. But again, this is just for right now, not the future. Also, even if I just get the springs now, they can be used on aftermarket struts later on, so it may actually save me some money down the road.

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You helped point out a punctuation error in my post; I've since edited it. I was not going to attempt to buy used and revalve KWs. RCE uses revalved or custom valved (I can't remember which) KWs for their systems. I'll have to give them another looks and see about longevity. My original plan was "ball out" as the swagalicious kids say nowadays, and get a well known and proven coilover. My other option would be springs and struts. They would be cheaper and would essentially do the same thing, up to a certain point. Regardless which option I go, I'd still have to get camber plates as well, so it's not like coilovers win on that regard. I still have plenty of time to figure this out. My goal is to just have a properly set up car that won't be spine shattering anymore. As I've said, my priorities shifted, so it's springs until then. Is it the best solution? No. But right now it's better than what I have.