04-21-2010, 05:43 PM
When MM went to VIR in March, we rented one of these...
![[Image: vansmoke.jpg]](http://www.turbovan.net/vansmoke.jpg)
...but ours was twenty years newer, base-model white, and had one more sliding door and one less turbocharger. It was still kind of a pile, though. Was a 2009 Grand Caravan with only 7,xxx on the odometer. I put 542 miles on it according to JMU, so I got a good feel for the "experience" - and all I have to say is
![[Image: 7301dl.jpg]](http://aboulet.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/7301dl.jpg)
C'mon Dodge. You can do better.
This was the "SE" trim, which in Dodge-speak means "base model with stuff removed" like in Joey's Malibu. Ours had the surprisingly underpowered 3.3L V6 that's rated around 170 hp. 4-speed AutoStick, so I could slap it into a lower gear if I wanted. No tachometer in the gauge cluster. Hurrrwha?
The DGC was ├╝ber-slow and frequently downshifted into 2nd for small hills. I could AutoStick it, but the upshift from 2nd to 3rd when in AutoStick resulted in a big ol' slip from the trans. With 7,000 miles on the van. Yeah.
Stereo system was good, it had an aux input so we could rock out. The Stow & Go seats were cool in theory but because they have to fit into a shallow well, the seats themselves are really thin and full of fail. Driver's seat was comfy enough. Lots of cupholders and space for "things" and "activities."
We managed ~17 mpg out of the van which was not surprising considering the need for 2nd gear on any hill. In going over the mountain on 250 in the rain, I discovered that both the high and low beams were sourced from the cheapest bidder... they were terrible.
Overall, it was a marginal van. I have no need for a minivan (and would never buy one) but I can easily see why Honda and Toyota are above Dodge/Chrysler in the list of mommy-mobiles. Time to step up the game, Dodge.
![[Image: vansmoke.jpg]](http://www.turbovan.net/vansmoke.jpg)
...but ours was twenty years newer, base-model white, and had one more sliding door and one less turbocharger. It was still kind of a pile, though. Was a 2009 Grand Caravan with only 7,xxx on the odometer. I put 542 miles on it according to JMU, so I got a good feel for the "experience" - and all I have to say is
![[Image: 7301dl.jpg]](http://aboulet.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/7301dl.jpg)
C'mon Dodge. You can do better.
This was the "SE" trim, which in Dodge-speak means "base model with stuff removed" like in Joey's Malibu. Ours had the surprisingly underpowered 3.3L V6 that's rated around 170 hp. 4-speed AutoStick, so I could slap it into a lower gear if I wanted. No tachometer in the gauge cluster. Hurrrwha?
The DGC was ├╝ber-slow and frequently downshifted into 2nd for small hills. I could AutoStick it, but the upshift from 2nd to 3rd when in AutoStick resulted in a big ol' slip from the trans. With 7,000 miles on the van. Yeah.
Stereo system was good, it had an aux input so we could rock out. The Stow & Go seats were cool in theory but because they have to fit into a shallow well, the seats themselves are really thin and full of fail. Driver's seat was comfy enough. Lots of cupholders and space for "things" and "activities."
We managed ~17 mpg out of the van which was not surprising considering the need for 2nd gear on any hill. In going over the mountain on 250 in the rain, I discovered that both the high and low beams were sourced from the cheapest bidder... they were terrible.
Overall, it was a marginal van. I have no need for a minivan (and would never buy one) but I can easily see why Honda and Toyota are above Dodge/Chrysler in the list of mommy-mobiles. Time to step up the game, Dodge.
Now:
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M
'16 Ram 1500 | '97 BMW M3 | Some Press Loan
Then:
87 BMW 325e | 91 BMW 535i | 96 BMW 328i | 95 BMW 325i | 95 Mazda Miata | 13 Focus ST | 09 BMW 128i | 00 Pontiac Firebird | 05 Yukon Denali | 96 BMW 328iC | 11 Ford F-150 | 06 BMW M3 | 10 Range Rover SC | '03 Ford Ranger | '18 Ford F-150 | '01 BMW X5 | '98 Volvo S70 T5M

