04-16-2009, 10:11 AM
Sorry for bitch slapping you silly so late Mike...I was traveling out to the desert.
Manfred von Richthofen was credited with 80 kills, not 100.
What nations top pilots are you talking about? The USA's Eddie Rickenbacker (26)?
What about France's Rene Fonck who was officially credited with 75 victories although he claimed well over 100. Georges Guynemer (53)?
Or the Canadians Billy Bishop (72) and Raymond Collishaw (60)?
Any love for Britain's James McCudden (57)? Edward Mannock? Several sources including fellow pilot Ira Jones credit him with as many as 73 kills.
I just can't believe you'd put the Red Baron on such a pedestal. Half of his kills were againt non-fighters. He famously took every kill for himself, never allowing a wingman or the new guy a chance.
He wasn't an innovator like Boelcke or Mannock; both wrote down a set of rules for air combat which were instrumental in the success of other pilots.
All the guys listed above were off the top of my head...while ensuring I had thier scores right I ran into this South African, Andrew (Anthony) Frederick Weatherby Beauchamp-Proctor, who I never heard of. Apparently he has 54 confirmed victories.
You want a bad ass pilot from WW1? Read about Werner Voss or Ernst Udet.
As a teaser about Udet from wikipedia: On the tail of his Fokker D VII was the message "Du doch nicht" - "Definitely not you.
-T
Quote:Red Baron anyone? In a time when other nation's top pilots had like 20 kills, this mf'r had 100. Beyond "in a league of his own."
Manfred von Richthofen was credited with 80 kills, not 100.
What nations top pilots are you talking about? The USA's Eddie Rickenbacker (26)?
What about France's Rene Fonck who was officially credited with 75 victories although he claimed well over 100. Georges Guynemer (53)?
Or the Canadians Billy Bishop (72) and Raymond Collishaw (60)?
Any love for Britain's James McCudden (57)? Edward Mannock? Several sources including fellow pilot Ira Jones credit him with as many as 73 kills.
I just can't believe you'd put the Red Baron on such a pedestal. Half of his kills were againt non-fighters. He famously took every kill for himself, never allowing a wingman or the new guy a chance.
He wasn't an innovator like Boelcke or Mannock; both wrote down a set of rules for air combat which were instrumental in the success of other pilots.
All the guys listed above were off the top of my head...while ensuring I had thier scores right I ran into this South African, Andrew (Anthony) Frederick Weatherby Beauchamp-Proctor, who I never heard of. Apparently he has 54 confirmed victories.
You want a bad ass pilot from WW1? Read about Werner Voss or Ernst Udet.
As a teaser about Udet from wikipedia: On the tail of his Fokker D VII was the message "Du doch nicht" - "Definitely not you.
-T
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2004 Subaru WRX STi
1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1998 Oldsmobile Cutlass