03-20-2008, 05:28 PM
I'll give you my input FWIW!
I've used AP, UTEC, ECUTek and Hydra. When I first used the AP, the ProTuner didn't exist so all you could use basically were the off the shelf maps unless you went to Cobb in Utah or wherever the fuck they are and get a custom tune from them. Cobb's ots maps were extremely rich and were leaving a lot of power and driveability on the table, I was never impressed. I think most people nowadays that go with the AP go ahead and get their cars ProTuned at places like Agile.
I liked the UTEC a lot better than the AP because TurboXS was relatively close by to me and Jermaine does some good tuning. My motor did blow on my STi with a TurboXS tune, but I can't say whether it was the tune or not... they tuned my old WRX and it ran really strong. The UTEC lets you switch maps really quickly with the remote map selector which is awesome, it's a lot better than plugging in the AP every time you want to do something. The last I heard TurboXS had a new version of it out called the Delta which was supposed to be the shit, but I've been out of the loop for a while.
Hydra hands down is the best EMS for Subarus, imho. The level of control you have over the car is unrivalled and it even has inputs for Hydramist if you decide to go with water injection. It is very expensive though. I wouldn't go that route unless you're into doing things real big!
Cliff notes: Check out the Delta or get a ProTune unless you have a few grand burning a hole in your pocket!
I've used AP, UTEC, ECUTek and Hydra. When I first used the AP, the ProTuner didn't exist so all you could use basically were the off the shelf maps unless you went to Cobb in Utah or wherever the fuck they are and get a custom tune from them. Cobb's ots maps were extremely rich and were leaving a lot of power and driveability on the table, I was never impressed. I think most people nowadays that go with the AP go ahead and get their cars ProTuned at places like Agile.
I liked the UTEC a lot better than the AP because TurboXS was relatively close by to me and Jermaine does some good tuning. My motor did blow on my STi with a TurboXS tune, but I can't say whether it was the tune or not... they tuned my old WRX and it ran really strong. The UTEC lets you switch maps really quickly with the remote map selector which is awesome, it's a lot better than plugging in the AP every time you want to do something. The last I heard TurboXS had a new version of it out called the Delta which was supposed to be the shit, but I've been out of the loop for a while.
Hydra hands down is the best EMS for Subarus, imho. The level of control you have over the car is unrivalled and it even has inputs for Hydramist if you decide to go with water injection. It is very expensive though. I wouldn't go that route unless you're into doing things real big!
Cliff notes: Check out the Delta or get a ProTune unless you have a few grand burning a hole in your pocket!
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Past: 2016 GMC Canyon All Terrain Crew Cab / 2010 Jaguar XFR / 2012 Acura RDX AWD Tech / 2008 Cadillac CTS / 2007 Acura TL-S / 1966 5.0 HO Mustang Coupe
2001 Lexus IS300 / 2004 2.8L big turbo WRX STI / 2004 Subaru WRX / A couple of old trucks