Project RS

[ScottyB]

Scotty-How about leaving the car alone?

i'm trying i have a personal issue with an engine that makes bad noises, i want it to be perfect.

I've owned 3 N/A subies and not a single one has had any sort of problems.

cool. i thought you only ever had that outback.

How much of this is your own paranoia?

all of it. i'm paranoid that detonation is going to mess up my engine. i don't know how much detonation a regular engine can take before stuff gets messy but i don't want to push it...which sucks because i like to drive hard.

Also, I think OBD2 cars will retard timing if it senses pinging/knock. If the car drives fine and there's no check engine light, there's probably nothing wrong with the thing.

its OBD2.....i don't know how its NOT retarding timing if i can hear the thing pinging like a tamborine from inside the car. i have no idea what the threshold is for "bad" pinging. this is why i'm going to the dealer -- i want to know if this is acceptable and hopefully i won't get a pat answer like "they all do that, it's fine" so they can brush me off (although if that really is the answer, then so be it).