VA Speeding Fines increasing...

[Goodspeed]

the area makes it more tolerable - compensating in different areas for the higher fines. have you ever driven the Pacific Coastal Highway, or atleast ridden in a car that has? It's amazing and the fact that you can pretty much ride all year round with little threat of rain is pretty nice.

Traffic is just as bad - if not a little better than the DC area. The drivers aren't as inconsiderate and generally they pay attention a *little* more. Not a lot, but noticeable coming from the DC area and driving in SD, LA and SF.

The increased fines and costs of living in the dc area is just another reason to leave it behind (atleast for a little while).

I've been up and down the coastal highway from SF to Seattle, and I agree it is amazingly beautiful. The Oregon coast is just amazing. I get what you're saying though, in the US you can't escape stupid policing and taxes, but at least you can move to a nice area. I'm just saying that SoCal isn't a gleaming beacon of beachfront living, it does have its social ills, and IMO I wouldn't find it a much better place to live than nova unless you can really afford to live in a nice area