04-17-2007, 09:03 PM
JackoliciousLegs Wrote:Ok, so I'm done for now. Please, someone... PLEASE tell me why we need guns in our society. Don't give me a BS answer like, "it's in our constitution" or "we want to hunt". Don't tell me it'd be too hard to clean our country of guns. Don't tell me it's to protect ourselves from our own government or any other conspiracy theory. Seriously, tell me why an industrialized, militarily fortified, first world superpower needs to let civilians have access to guns.
Why do we need guns, indeed? Guns only do harm, that pesky second amendment is worthless.
And why stop there? I mean, getting a warrant is such a hassle. This shooting could have been prevented if the Police had just been able to examine each and every person's personal effects at any time. Heck, all gun crime could be eliminated with that one! In fact, if we ban all guns (except for Law Enforcement, of course), making sure no nasty, illegal guns are around will be a cinch!
And, while we're at it, anybody with a gun must be intending to commit a crime with it. After all, as you say, guns are only used for nefarious or barbaric purposes. So there's no need to hold to such silly notions as trials or juries, I mean, they have guns! That'll make other crimes pretty easy to enforce too.
And all these guilty Barbarians will be punished, of course. We'll think of something good. No need to spare anything for those evil, plotting anarchists!
And since we'll then finally have a peaceful society, there'll be no need for anyone to speak out against the government! It'll be perfect! The media will take it's cues from the government (which is perfect) and we'll all have Unitarian Quiet Services on Sunday (or really, any day you wish) and speaking out will be unheard of! Unless you're a criminal, of course, in which case society will soon be free of your burden.
Won't that be wonderful?
Get your head out of your ass, Jack. You can't say "Tell me why we need guns, but don't mention the Constitution!" Why do you need your freedom of speech, Jack? What about your freedom to worship as you please, or to peaceably assemble? You weren't using that right to a Jury trial, so let's just toss it out the window! It's inconvenient! Why, Juries consist of people! And people can sometimes be wrong! Which means criminals might go free! Let's just toss that out!
The Freakin' United States Constitution, Amendment II Wrote:A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Notice it doesn't say "The right of the people to bear arms for hunting purposes will not be infringed." Oh, and before you get all "The Militia=National Guard" on me, The US Code Disagrees with you.
The VT Shooting is a terrible tragedy. Please do not turn it into a gun control issue. Psychopaths have no regard for the law.
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