Where is Evan?

[Evan]

Well since you took it upon yourself to say I was acting on some 'false authority' and that was the reason you left the forum you were taking it public.If you didn't want to get called out then you shouldn't have brought me into this.

wrong. Jeff specifically asked where I was. I made a one sentence statement that you deleted my post and I didnt agree with the reasoning, NONE of which was private information or deragatory to you. In fact, I risked making MYSELF sound petty and whiny by not talking about the reasons.
I went out of my way to not bring ANY of the details of why I left the forums out of it. I didnt make any dramatic posts about how I was wronged, I wasnt even all that pissed afterwards. And then you turn around and pull this shit?
Dont try to rationalize your deleting a non-inflammatory public comment with private comments. That doesnt fly, and you should be smarter than that.

The whole reason I PM'd you in the first place is because I thought you could be reasonable about it but instead you got all angry with me and left the forum over it. Why wasn't your response to post in the Site Suggestions forum that we need forum guidelines?

Why wasnt YOUR response to PM me FIRST instead of just deleting it? I would have chuckled and changed the post if you really thought it got anybody butthurt. You STILL cant get it through your skull that this is not about the deletion of one post, its how you treated me, someone you have known for a long time with COMPLETE disrespect.

Let me break it down for you, in that situation you had 2 acceptable options. and let me remind you what I said before about this community being an electronic extension of the real life relationships, NOT a typical car forum.
#1- PM me FIRST and say you think my post is inflammatory and please change it. I probably would have busted your chops (because it wasnt inflammatory) but I would have changed it to keep the peace and moved on. No big deal.
#2- PMed me to tell me that my post violated the rules of the forum and deleted my post. You dont have rules for the forum, so you are fucked here.
In the end, you told me what I can and cant say in a public area amongst friends. Thats completely unacceptable. You have no 'authority' here, there is no such thing. If we were hanging out in the paddock and I shouted at you to shut up and stop talking everytime you wanted to say something you wouldnt be too happy about that.

and let me remind you (And everyone else) that I was NOT bent out of shape about this, I was completely happy to move along and never say a word of this disagreement, continue to enjoy my time with MM at the track and Karting, etc. Unfortunately thats no longer possible, as Gerald dredged everything up so Im explaining it. I hate this stupid drama shit as much as anyone else. But if anyone pulls this shit on me, I come to play. All day every day. believe dat.

If you feel your statements were out of context feel free to post the entire conversation. Bottom line is that your attitude started with 'Fuck him if he can't take a joke' and that you ended by accusing me of protecting ricers and douchebags.

please provide where I said anything of the sort publicly. I was annoyed at the time and YOUR attitude, but you CANT justify what you did, with something I said to you in private, AFTER you did it. seriously, where the hell are you getting your logic? you fucked up bigtime posting a private conversation, and you need to admit it.

btw, the thread/post in question was NOT an intro thread, and it wasnt even a potential member so dont give me that bullshit

Maybe you just don't realize how it appears to people who don't know you but when you start making fun of people like that what are they supposed to think? Why is it that more than one person here expected you to be posting hateful things in here? Could it possibly be because that you've been hostile in the past? Or is it just that everyone is lying and unfairly characterizing some of your posts? You yourself said that you've been hostile to noobs in the past.

bullshit. give me some examples. recent examples. I joke around alot with people I know but I havent flamed anyone I didnt already know in a long time. Travis is probably the most recent, and he damn well deserved it :p

But there's no reason for you to be getting all bent out of shape and angry now over one post.
If the issue was that there needs to be forum guidelines, then make it about forum guidelines. You instead focused on being angry that someone dared to delete your post.

can you read?! how many times do i have to repeat myself? I said it wasnt about the deletion, it was about how you handled it, and how the forums are delegated. Whole groups of people have left forums (and started new ones) over much less. After all was said and done I wasnt really that pissed. I sure as shit have gotten posts deleted before. I decided to leave all the garbage on the internet and walk away from it. Im more productive at work now to boot. But you brought it down to the personal level with the worst thing you could have done.

I've brought these things up before, as a matter of fact I brought this up when the whole separate forum idea was first discussed.

yet as a mod you havent actually done anything, instead you babysit the forums and tell people arbitrarily what they can and cant say based on your opinion?

Even then, for people who are looking to join a group the natural thing is for them to come check out the forum to see if they fit in. Especially people who've found us on the internet. Maybe it would do us well to lay off the sarcasm and flaming and what not for new people? Or am I just imagining that the forum has become unfriendly to noobs?

all of you are imagining things. every intro thread in the past 2 years has been overwhelmingly nice. I even sent the new miata kid a PM to welcome him a couple weeks ago.
Forums are by nature intimidating to newcomers. Its like coming into a room full of people and shouting hi, so naturally anyone is going to feel a bit intimidated.
If you want to ease that introduction you need to create an intro forum, NOT try to tell people what they can and cant say after the fact because just maybe they said something that might possibly hurt someones feelings but probably not.

For you to even begin to say I am not willing to put any sort of thought or effort into solving the problems at hand is preposterous.

so prove me wrong. you have a long standing problem that I just thought up of several solutions off the top of my head that would take a couple hours to implement. yet you and none has done shit. over this problem in the past 2 weeks you have lost one of the most experienced drivers in your club, and a nasa official. both longstanding members. so where is all the effort in solving the problems?

The truth is I've given a lot of thought of why this forum sometimes descends into a bunch of useless bickering and hate.

Just an FYI, posting a private conversation publicly tends to do that. Maybe you should think these things through.

I find it particularly ironic that you told me how you wanted to keep it private, yet you dredge this thread up after several days of inactivity, when there was nothing bad said about you in the first place.





disclaimer- its late and Im writing stream of consciousness, excuse grammar and speeeeling.