haha... reason 23174 that stick is better than auto

[ScottyB]

they can mimmick everything we do

thats what would kill it for me, right there. i want to heel/toe downshift and rev match, and all that good stuff! unless i'm racing competitively, i want to have to constantly excercise my ability, even if it means i screw up shifts.

for me alot of the enjoyment comes from doing something so complex, its really satisfying for me.

i bet that in 10 years there will only be a select few hardcore cars that even offer true manuals anymore.