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09-19-2005, 12:03 PM
theguywiththeSi Wrote:Feersty Wrote:Dave are you getting rid of both 240s? He isn't. Ever. He will be buried in it.
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09-19-2005, 12:04 PM
CaptainHenreh Wrote:He isn't. damnit.... :x
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09-19-2005, 03:36 PM
yeah just wanted to vote against the SRT4 haha
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09-19-2005, 03:43 PM
figure out a class you don't mind being in and go for it. if you have no plans for racin go with what you'd like the most, wouldn't mind stuffing in to a wall, and is easy to work on.
my votes? 2.5RS, integra, or hatch.
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09-19-2005, 05:14 PM
my vote awd dsm, if you go through cars quickly, if you get a 2nd gen awd dsm, the price does not go down much, and if you find one for a good price you can sell it back for even more. Or if you want a track bitch, maybe get a cheap 1g and mod the hell out of it. However, they are on the heavy side....
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09-19-2005, 06:06 PM
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09-19-2005, 07:22 PM
AWD DSM does not a good track car make.
With that kind of power and weight you're going to be brake limited up front big time, and those things understeer like a bitch until the turbo spools and you can get on the power, and then sometimes it just understeers worse.
09-19-2005, 10:35 PM
i'm selling both 240s in my current plans. I'll probably never sell the supra, so no point in even going there Jay :-).
So, I'm feeling a couple votes for the mkIV, a couple for the DSM, and several for the 240. Looks like the 2.5, SRT, and Hondapile aren't getting much support in the choosing process. DSM and 240 will run me about the same price I imagine, whereas the mkIV would be a pretty expensive endeavour. Still not sure what I'm going to do here. Keep the suggestions coming.
09-19-2005, 11:11 PM
the dsm and 24 will cost the same? maybe in initial cost. the dsm will cost you A LOT more in the long run.
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4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant) 2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red) No longer onyachin.
09-19-2005, 11:26 PM
Mike Wrote:the dsm and 24 will cost the same? maybe in initial cost. the dsm will cost you A LOT more in the long run. SR'd 240 VS DSM...price differential isn't much.
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09-19-2005, 11:36 PM
Mike Wrote:maybe in initial cost.
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4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant) 2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red) No longer onyachin.
09-19-2005, 11:56 PM
Mike Wrote:Mike Wrote:maybe in initial cost. I read what you said. I stand by my statement.
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09-19-2005, 11:57 PM
you're silly or just don't know people with DSMs
 i'll admit, i don't know anyone with a SR 240, but i do know 4 people with DSMs... only 1 of them is running.
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4 wheels: '01 RAV4 (Formerly '93 Civic CX, '01 S2000, '10 GTI, '09 A4 Avant) 2 wheels: '12 Surly Cross-Check Custom | '14 Trek Madone 2.1 105 | '17 Norco Threshold SL Force 1 | '17 Norco Revolver 9.2 FS | '18 BMC Roadmachine 02 Two | '19 Norco Search XR Steel (Formerly '97 Honda VFR750F, '05 Giant TCR 2, '15 WeThePeople Atlas 24, '10 Scott Scale 29er XT, '11 Cervelo R3 Rival, '12 Ridley X-Fire Red) No longer onyachin.
09-20-2005, 12:07 AM
The DSM will just be more $$ to keep running, and will eat up tires and brakes a lot faster due to the speed/weight...
09-20-2005, 12:32 AM
Mike Wrote:you're silly or just don't know people with DSMs i have a SR 240.. dave.. need a ride??.. or want to drive it?
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09-20-2005, 01:09 AM
wow I dont know about your experiences with dsms, but mine is very easy to oversteer, lol ask the instructor that was with me on summit point. You have to learn how to drive awd cuz its totally different. Actually getting on the throttle will increase understeer while lifting off the throttle will get the back light and slide it out....I wish I had a video, I was kicking ass through the corners, however, as im stock and slipping clutch, every car there except a corolla raped me on the straights, I passed a bunch of people tho through the corners cuz they had to let me pass as I was much faster...and these were on 215/17s original 62,000 mile RS-A. The car is a good track car if you are competent with it. Or maybe the people I was against sucked....cuz I didnt get passed except at the starting line when one passed me on the straight accelerating, but he had to let me pass two turns later.
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09-20-2005, 08:25 AM
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:wow I dont know about your experiences with dsms, but mine is very easy to oversteer, lol ask the instructor that was with me on summit point. You have to learn how to drive awd cuz its totally different. Actually getting on the throttle will increase understeer while lifting off the throttle will get the back light and slide it out.... Driving an AWD car is no different than a FWD or RWD. The line is about the same, you still have 4 contact patches and a traction circle and weight transfer to manage. The on track behavior that you're describing applies to any car and pretty typical of how a FWD car operates - you're understeering, and then when you lift off the gas all the weight transfers to the front and away from the rear - leaving the rear with no grip - and it oversteers. No load on the tire = no grip. Either way, Dave is a good driver on track and he'd have no problem with FWD/AWD.
09-20-2005, 09:33 AM
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09-20-2005, 11:37 AM
Mike Wrote:you're silly or just don't know people with DSMs Well, I've owned a DSM, and I owned a 240, admittedly not an SR. The only problem I ever had with my Talon was a crank pulley seperation, which was pretty easy to fix (once I got the fenderwell off). The 240, IMHO, was alot more difficult to work on, enginewise. I'd buy another AWD DSM in a heartbeat if I had the cash for a decent one. They're not fantastic track cars, sure, but they are hands down oen of the most enjoyable multipurpose cars ever created. It's the Bob the Builder of sport compacts. Can we autocross? Yes we can! Can we run on track? Yes we can! Can we drive back and forth to work every day...in the snow?!? Yes we can! You get the picture.
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