BMW M4

[G.Irish]

Oh well, I still think if BMW built more cars like the E30 M3 instead of the E92 M3 the world would be a better place.

Wut? :evileye:

I guess I have a weird view of the m3s. E30 M3 and E46 M3 were race engines on the street, with harsh drivetrains, and bone-crushing suspensions. The E36 M3 and e92 M3 are good compromises. Torquey, smooth motors, heavier than their previous counterparts, but have split personalities. Cushy/nice around town (remember the E36 is 90s and compare relative), and then fabulously good in the corners/backroads.

I just drove back from NJMP in my mom's e46 m3 and was reminded how seriously hard that suspension is for a factory vehicle. Although high-strung motors are cool, I prefer the powerband in smooth powertrains such as the S52 and s65.

Remember, just my opinion even though I may piss off some purists.

I think if BMW just gave us a hardcore Lightweight/GTS M3 it could satisfy all M3 lovers. Regular model for people who want something that is a balance of comfort/luxury and performance, hardcore model for people who don't care about motorized seats or moonroofs. Only question would be if the hardcore model got a DCT.

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The current 3-series (the F30 or whatever it is) is almost identically-sized to my old E34 535i.

It's unfortunate that every model has grown so much over the years. I think it really de-values the model name, as now the 1-series is what you'd want if you liked the old 3's.

I may have read this statement or ones similar a million times but it didn't actually hit til like ten minutes ago....


#kindofwanta135i

[Jake]

Dammit, you bought a Montreal Blue E36 and haven't posted a project thead yet? WHY MAN WHY. I love that color.

A brand new 128i has nearly the same power-to-weight ratio as an E36 M3 (13.9 vs 13.4 lbs per HP). Crazy.

[G.Irish]

Looks like it will in fact come in at a 3300 lbs curb weight, lighter than the E46. This generation M3 is shaping up to be the tits.

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[ScottyB]

the TMIC is an interesting choice...it'll be interesting to see how they're able to cool that much intake charge over a long run like a track session. i guess DI helps cool the charge in and of itself as extra help?