Only 7 cars finished the race out of 20. While the race wasn't quite as exciting as Moto GP or WSBK have been, I must say it was a pretty good for a dry F1 race. It was cool seeing all of the drivers having to constantly correct and countersteer through the turns.
I have to think that while some of the crashes were typical "over-optimistic" lunges some of them were probably because the cars are just plain more difficult to drive. I don't think I've ever seen Kimi Raikkonen go sailing off the track the way he did twice last weekend (except for the times his car broke).
Next race is this weekend in Malaysia where I expect there will probably be some more of people running into each other and people sliding all over the place.
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God that's terrifying. I would be nervous as shit driving one of those cars without TC.
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It was deffinately an interesting weekend, cars crashing and breaking all over the place. Rough weekend for the Iceman, he seems to have the worst luck possible (disregarding the last two races last season) but hopefully Ferrari will fix whatever is wrong for this weekend.
The FIA is going to have to reconsider some of these new rules, 4 race tranny, 2 race engine etc...scoring points by attrition does not make for good racing.
DavidM Wrote:scoring points by attrition does not make for good racing.
Extending engine/transmission life wont stop these guys from putting on their clownshoes and crashing into each other.
Besides, top level motorsport isnt really about racing...
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
On Kimi it was bad luck that he ended up qualifying where he did but those two offs were all him. He's lucky he didn't tear up the car like Glock did. Not a good start for the defending champ.
I think Fernando was really lucky to finish 4th. It looks like he won't be a title threat at all this year.
Quote:The FIA is going to have to reconsider some of these new rules, 4 race tranny, 2 race engine etc...scoring points by attrition does not make for good racing.
Yeah the whole 2 race engine and 4 race transmission rules are pretty dumb. I doubt they're saving much money because they still have to do all the engineering work to make the components last that long. In F1 the majority of the cost is in the engineering, not the actual component cost.
I will say though that it does make it more interesting when a front runner has to start from the back because they changed engines. But then again maybe you'd have a better race if all the fast cars were duking it out at the front rather than trying to dice through backmarkers.
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G.Irish Wrote:On Kimi it was bad luck that he ended up qualifying where he did but those two offs were all him. He's lucky he didn't tear up the car like Glock did. Not a good start for the defending champ.
Totally agree, the pass he tried to make on Hieki was totally ill advised, especially given the tire wear and the fact that he needed to pit so he was going to give the position right back anyway...but had he qualified in the top three i have no doubt he could have finished ahead of Hieki and possibly Hamilton. I just hope both teams have their cars reliable so we actually see the fastest team/driver win...not just the team who has a car stay together longest.
RJ: I know it won't keep them from sliding all over the place and taking one another out but the majority of the DNF's...at least among the front runners, were due to technical failures not crashes (Massa being the notable exception and that accident was in no way due to the lack of TC...simply Massa's boneheadedness). Really I just want to see good racing, I deffinately like that there was more passing and battling in the front as well as midpack, I would just like to see those cars finish rather than parking in the gravel.
DavidM Wrote:(Massa being the notable exception and that accident was in no way due to the lack of TC...simply Massa's boneheadedness).
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Most of the field had their clownshoes on, and that was entertaining. They tested all winter without TC, and all weekend @ in melbourne and they are still running off track/into each other come game day.
Now, about removing TC from MotoGP... beef up the ambulance staff first
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(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
I think the removal of assisted engine braking caused just as many wrecks as the lack of TC, imagine jumping off the throttle now and the rear locking up or massive weight transfer off the rear wheels. Seeing kimi go spinning put a smile on my face...
white_2kgt Wrote:I think the removal of assisted engine braking caused just as many wrecks as the lack of TC, imagine jumping off the throttle now and the rear locking up or massive weight transfer off the rear wheels. Seeing kimi go spinning put a smile on my face...
Spot on. I think having to adjust for having the downforce coming off the car as you slow down is a big shift for these guys. Probably makes for a big change on handling on corner entry too.
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white_2kgt Wrote:I think the removal of assisted engine braking caused just as many wrecks as the lack of TC, imagine jumping off the throttle now and the rear locking up or massive weight transfer off the rear wheels. Seeing kimi go spinning put a smile on my face...
Bingo. I finally got the download of the race last night. It's awesome to see F1 cars behaving like cars again. Countersteering and oversteer needs to happen more often.
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