Racing with Automatic
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Not by choice..I have a 90 325ix kind of left over that is automatic. I put it on fleebay and it managed $2600 from a non-paying bidder. I'm secretly kind of happy he didn't pay.

I thought it might be fun, and a good idea, to do some learning in it like proper line, rules of the track etc. The vette was originally planned as a drag car and there is a lot more work than I thought in prepping it for road racing and I am ready to go.

So..Pro's/ Con's to automatic road racing.
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Chad's pretty much an authority on this - his Mustang was automatic for a long, long time.
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#3
do it, or give it to me for daily driver duty.
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#4
Not as a downside to an automatic, but I wouldn't take a 325ix on track. Relegate it to DD duty and enjoy it. The AWD E30 was really just a marketing thing against Audi. All the rest of us E30 folks would just as soon forget it exists, except for brake boosters.
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I tracked the mustang for about 2 years w/ an auto. It was fine getting started, learning the line and braking zones, as long as it was dry. In the wet it would down shift at the WORST possible time (I could only hold it in 1 or 2 but not 3rd). After I took a pretty harry spin at VIR I pulled it and moved to the 5spd. You won't be able to learn heel/toe or advance throttle manipulation mid-corner but to get started (HPDE1/2) it won't hold you back right away.

Now you said 'RACING', I assume you mean HPDE which IS NOT racing, in any way, shape or form, if you actually mean 'RACING' as in Wheel to Wheel or time trials, it's going to suck, no ifs ands or butts about it.
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white_2kgt Wrote:I tracked the mustang for about 2 years w/ an auto. It was fine getting started, learning the line and braking zones, as long as it was dry. In the wet it would down shift at the WORST possible time (I could only hold it in 1 or 2 but not 3rd). After I took a pretty harry spin at VIR I pulled it and moved to the 5spd. You won't be able to learn heel/toe or advance throttle manipulation mid-corner but to get started (HPDE1/2) it won't hold you back right away.

Now you said 'RACING', I assume you mean HPDE which IS NOT racing, in any way, shape or form, if you actually mean 'RACING' as in Wheel to Wheel or time trials, it's going to suck, no ifs ands or butts about it.

Good point..no "racing" yet. Sounds like the auto will be OK, for a while.

Captain, any specific reason the ix should not be used? I'm not looking for any advantage from AWD it just happens to be the car I have sitting. Maybe I should dump it while it all still works for a regular E30 to pound on for a year.
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And a manual one, at that Wink
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Steve85 Wrote:Captain, any specific reason the ix should not be used? I'm not looking for any advantage from AWD it just happens to be the car I have sitting. Maybe I should dump it while it all still works for a regular E30 to pound on for a year.

Well, the iX is just as reliable as any other E30, but has some unique parts (front driveshaft through the oilpan? ICK!) that may cause a problem when you start to break things (and you will).

The other point is that the AWD just means extra weight and worse handling. The AWD system in the iX is a band-aid, and not really all that well thought out. There's nothing wrong with it, it's perfectly fine, it's just not a "performance" awd like you'd normally think of one.

You'll learn more, have more fun, and be on the track more if you just get a "regular" 325i. On the plus side, you should have no problems selling your iX and getting into a nice, manual trans 325i. I'd say, budget about 2500 for a halfway decent example if you don't have a insatiable need for the plastic bumpers.

Just food for thought.
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