white_2kgt Wrote:Look, unless the battery has a dead short you can still jump the vehicle. A BROKEN battery is different than a DEAD battery. Next time you can't jump a car, unhook the - cable and try.
Isn't that just semantics? A battery can be so dead that it's broken... and everyone's right!
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Apoc Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:Look, unless the battery has a dead short you can still jump the vehicle. A BROKEN battery is different than a DEAD battery. Next time you can't jump a car, unhook the - cable and try.
Isn't that just semantics? A battery can be so dead that it's broken... and everyone's right!
A battery w/ a dead short WILL NOT take a charge and start working again. One that was just ran down b/c you left a map light on will take a charge and start working again. What the OP stated, so hence there should be no reason why it could not have been jumped. It could have been drained so far that it wouldn't take/hold a charge but not contain a dead short. Usually when I make a statement to a question posted on a forum I am addressing the OP problem or one that I quoted, not every single situation that mankind could possibly encounter.
regardless of whether the battery is broken or dead, a new battery should only be between $50-$100 and last a few years atleast. If it doesn't take a charge, then a new one can be had for relatively cheap. My subaru's battery died last winter so I'm not too surprised that justin's is dead.
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white_2kgt Wrote:A battery w/ a dead short WILL NOT take a charge and start working again. One that was just ran down b/c you left a map light on will take a charge and start working again. What the OP stated, so hence there should be no reason why it could not have been jumped. It could have been drained so far that it wouldn't take/hold a charge but not contain a dead short. Usually when I make a statement to a question posted on a forum I am addressing the OP problem or one that I quoted, not every single situation that mankind could possibly encounter.
I've never seen anyone get salty over a discussion about car batteries. You must not get laid much. So you're saying that there's absolutely no way that you can drain a battery so much that you won't be able to jump the vehicle?
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Apoc Wrote:white_2kgt Wrote:A battery w/ a dead short WILL NOT take a charge and start working again. One that was just ran down b/c you left a map light on will take a charge and start working again. What the OP stated, so hence there should be no reason why it could not have been jumped. It could have been drained so far that it wouldn't take/hold a charge but not contain a dead short. Usually when I make a statement to a question posted on a forum I am addressing the OP problem or one that I quoted, not every single situation that mankind could possibly encounter.
I've never seen anyone get salty over a discussion about car batteries. You must not get laid much. So you're saying that there's absolutely no way that you can drain a battery so much that you won't be able to jump the vehicle?
I'm not getting salty, nor am I getting personal, if you would like, i'd be more than happy to do both.
But basically, yes that is what I am saying as long as the batt isn't damaged and you are using proper equiptment to do the jump, large enough batt and proper cables.
...and it's not possible to drain a battery so low that it becomes damaged?
'76 911S | '14 328xi | '17 GTI | In memoriam: '08 848, '85 944
"Here, at last, is the cure for texting while driving. The millions of deaths which occur every year due to the iPhone’s ability to stream the Kim K/Ray-J video in 4G could all be avoided, every last one of them, if the government issued everyone a Seventies 911 and made sure they always left the house five minutes later than they’d wanted to. It would help if it could be made to rain as well. Full attention on the road. Guaranteed." -Jack Baruth
Apoc Wrote:...and it's not possible to drain a battery so low that it becomes damaged?
I contend that it IS possible.
I've had both broken batteries (from rectifier damage on the VFR) and completely dead, busted nuts, repeatedly drained to the core batteries (from my Accord). In both instances the battey COULD NOT be jumped.
I think it IS all semantics, though. A dead battery is the same as a broken battery to me... if it won't hold a charge it's got to get replaced. Dead, broken, I would have used them interchangably all day long if you hadn't made the distinction.
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you know what, I'm done. Fine, the battery was drained so far it was damaged, go buy another one, get a ride from a friend, take your bike, get a cab to get there if that makes you fell better. I'm confidant that if my battery were to ever be drained and somebody came along with a car I could jump from I would get my vehicle running again and get it home, there end of story. Believe whatever you want. I don't care, it isn't worth it to me.
uhhh i'm going through this currently. my bike will not start on a battery that was completely drained. i've attempted to jump it from a working car battery...
however, i believe bike batteries are fundamentally different than car batteries.
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Mike Wrote:however, i believe bike batteries are fundamentally different than car batteries.
How?
They're both of the lead/acid variety... unless its a gel-cell, but then the principle is the same.
(09-25-2019, 03:18 PM)V1GiLaNtE Wrote: I think you need to see a mental health professional.
white_2kgt Wrote:using proper equiptment to do the jump, large enough batt and proper cables.
I was trying to jump from a 4 runner. The cables were pretty low grade. Do the cables matter that much?
mrbaggio Wrote:Do the cables matter that much?
For sure, that is what is carrying the current from the secondary battery, if it can't carry enough current the starter relay won't kick on.
Here's your first problem:
You let a girl drive your WRX.
Hindsight is 20/20 =D
hahah
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WRXtranceformed Wrote:Here's your first problem:
You let a girl drive your WRX.
Hindsight is 20/20 =D
hahah
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this thread makes me laugh a little.
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UPDATE:
I borrowed a battery charger. Hooked that sucker up and charged the battery for a few hours. It is working not and appears to hold a charge. I will likely have to replace it very soon, but we shall see.
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