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Shock wave ICE? - BLINGMW - 03-17-2011
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It's like a turbo... without the pesky engine to drive it! Well, really, it's like a turbine engine. I'm not even sure this is something new.
Sounds pretty suspect to me. Emissions would be terrible. And the claim of 60% efficiency sounds way too high, I can't see how this would do a better job of capturing heat. We'll see!
Re: Shock wave ICE? - HAULN-SS - 03-17-2011
Probably works well if your disk is like 5' diameter
Re: Shock wave ICE? - CaptainHenreh - 03-17-2011
I used to like New Scientist but they've gone straight whack-job since they "hit the internet".
Re: Shock wave ICE? - Evan - 03-17-2011
25 kw = 33hp. and thats what he "hopes" to develop. and my guess would be this produces less torque than a hamster wheel.
it kind of sounds like just another dumbshit inventor errr 'scientist' trying to swindle research dollars.
Re: Shock wave ICE? - BLINGMW - 03-17-2011
well FWIW, he's touting it as an engine for hybrid vehicles, in which case 33HP, low torque, and something that just runs and charges all the time would probably be ideal. At least for something like the Volt that's really an electric car with onboard charging. :dunno: Which is probably the way to go instead of the "Prius" hybrid model.
Obviously there are better engine choices for hybrids since they just need fuel converted to electricity and don't need the torque and response of a piston engine... this or some turbine engine variant seems like the right path until we get the cost of fuel cells WAY down.
Re: Shock wave ICE? - Evan - 03-17-2011
yeah, technology is technology so if this thing really is the dogs bollocks then I wouldnt doubt that 33hp would quickly turn into 100hp. or they could do the rotary thing and chain a couple together.
I was a little unclear about their prototype they developed. was it demonstrated as running, on some kind of a dyno? sounded to me like it was just on display?
Re: Shock wave ICE? - BLINGMW - 03-17-2011
didn't sound particularly functional :dunno:
....YET! We just need some government money! :lol:
yeah man chain like 10 of those bitches together. AND turbo it!
Re: Shock wave ICE? - ScottyB - 03-17-2011
BLINGMW Wrote:yeah man chain like 10 of those bitches together. AND turbo it!
LOL....what i would give to see a 5 rotor quinturbo'ed shockwave penismightier generator. put it in a prius and go pimping.
i had the same reaction as a main powertrain...it would need a CVT or you'd never get over a speedbump. but as an onboard battery generator it makes alot of sense. 60% thermal efficiency also sounds hilarious and not possible at all.
for emissions, i wonder if you chained one shockwave generator the other's exhaust, so that it's like a post-burn scavenging unit. i have no idea how you'd keep it from melting though, what with it ingesting blazing hot exhaust as it's intake.
i just realized, is this on diesel or gas? i was trying to figure out the spark layout and diesel suddenly made sense once you get the burn cycle going.
Re: Shock wave ICE? - ViPER1313 - 03-17-2011
Thought I had.. would the additional aerodynamic drag created by attaching an air scoop (F1 style) to a car's roof / hood that is used to turn a turbine that powers a generator be greater than the energy produced by that generator while moving :dunno:
Re: Shock wave ICE? - BLINGMW - 03-17-2011
ViPER1313 Wrote:Thought I had.. would the additional aerodynamic drag created by attaching an air scoop (F1 style) to a car's roof / hood that is used to turn a turbine that powers a generator be greater than the energy produced by that generator while moving :dunno:That'd have to be one hell of a scoop to sap 33 HP. More like a sail.
ScottyB Wrote:i just realized, is this on diesel or gas? i was trying to figure out the spark layout and diesel suddenly made sense once you get the burn cycle going.I think it mentioned it could be adapted for many fuels. I assume you just put household garbage in a grinder, add some water, and feed it in there. :dunno:
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