.RJ Wrote:So what happens when they cross the streams?

ScottyB Wrote:

.RJ Wrote:So what happens when they cross the streams?

they go plaid

CaptainHenreh Wrote:You might as well worry that Zombie Robot Hitler will rise from his bunker under the arctic ice and conquer the world with his vampire army.

Maengelito Wrote:

CaptainHenreh Wrote:You might as well worry that Zombie Robot Hitler will rise from his bunker under the arctic ice and conquer the world with his vampire army.

fuck, what do we do?

CaptainHenreh Wrote:

Maengelito Wrote:fuck, what do we do?

Pray to die first, Maeng.

CaptainHenreh Wrote:A shotgun will not stop Zombie Robot Hitler or his army of vampires.

Once again, goodspeed dies at the beginning of the apocalypse.

Quote:Black hole? There's been a lot of speculation on this and some scientists are pretty worried about it. There have been TONS of problems with the collider in the last few years, which have caused VERY significant delays and setbacks. As a result I believe it'll be only running at partial power for a couple of years and then shut down for a year of maintenance and then fired back up towards full power after that.

Many people have suggested that the future is actually causing the problems and desperately trying to prevent us from completing the project and operating it at full power. "Holger Bech Nielsen of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto wonder if it isn't bad luck at all, but future influences rippling back to sabotage them. In papers like "Test of Effect From Future in Large Hadron Collider: a Proposal" and "Search for Future Influence From LHC," they put forth the notion that observing the Higgs boson would be such an abhorrent event that the future is actually trying to prevent it from happening."

If you look at the proposed timelines and such it'll be getting towards full power near the end of 2012. It's thought that the future exists and it's preventing us from using this at full power, but can only prevent it for so long. On that note, it's suggested that the future ceases to exist in 2013, which then offers no prevention and allows us to finally complete the collider and bring it to full operating power in 2012, which causes the end of the world and no 2013 (preventing force).

Quote:Complexity of the Universe does not seem to be the problem affecting the LHC. The problem is that the effects of actually concentrating that much energy into such a small space/time could have repercussions that scientists do not yet understand. Much like a child sticking a metal object into a light socket; this LHC could possibly produce unfathomable results for which the LHC facility is not capable of shielding from or controlling.

What is meant by future sabatoge is that whatever effects this collision produced in a future that actually allowed it to occurr has led to a problem so great, that somehow someone is able to A) either see the future caused by this experiment and subtly introduce such problems as to prevent it from happening or B) an entity from the future is intercepting its own doomed fate. This is opposite of the "kill grandpa" effect in that the entities future/existence depends on not allowing this event to occurr in the first place.

As scientific minds continue to ponder how to prevent this effect from happening, such as reducing the number of people with access to the site, it will become more and more difficult to prevent the consequences which will result from that collision experiment.

Scientists as of yet are still pondering whether or not string theory has any validity, and cannot figure out what it means to have empty space expand, while matter does not seem itself to be expanding (ie the earth is not getting bigger as space itself expands) as space is. Add to this problem of the acceleration issue and nothing makes sense.

Maybe it would make more sense if gravity itself were not thought be a force which attracts, but rather space as having a force which repels matter from all sides. No one has been able to actually demonstrate that gravity is not instantaneous, and since certain particle behaviour has shown an ability to affect one another instantaneously, it cannot be ruled out that gravity itself is the result of a weak yet constant push from space itself.

If this were to be true, and space itself was pushing matter together, clumping it into black holes, massive stars and planets, then who is to say that the fact that space is creating ever larger vacuums is not leading to this force getting stronger- directly resulting in an accerating expansion rate.

The more matter combines to form ever larger clumps, the stronger the repelling force against space. And if the LHC is successful at creating a local atmosphere similar to the alleged Big Bang; a cataclysmic local creation of space could blow part of the earth apart knocking the rest of the planet off course in its orbit. And that folks, is what our little time traveling gremlin friends are trying to prevent.