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NASA-NE @ The Glen, September 15-16 - Mike - 02-08-2008
Let's get the ball rolling on this sucker. The only reason I haven't gone in the past is cause nobody else wants to go. Let's get a serious crew together, and do this somonabitch right!
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312 miles from arlington
373 miles from h'burg
really not that far. heck, closer than cmp for us nova folks (by 2 hours)!
- Apoc - 02-08-2008
For those not sure if they really want to go, consider this...
It's only 5 hours to get there up 15, which is a pretty nice drive.
The area around the track is actually really nice and worth seeing.
The average temp that time of year is ~70┬░.
They have garages if the weather is crappy.
...and perhaps most importantly...
The Glen is an amazing track to drive.
- Mike - 02-08-2008
yeah, i plan on heading up and/or staying an extra day or two just to see some sights.
- Apoc - 02-08-2008
I would go to instruct if it wasn't during the week 'cause I'll have 0 vacation days left after August.
It's actually one of the better places to take a female counterpart.
- Evan - 02-08-2008
Apoc Wrote:For those not sure if they really want to go, consider this...
It's only 5 hours to get there up 15, which is a pretty nice drive.
The area around the track is actually really nice and worth seeing.
The average temp that time of year is ~70┬░.
They have garages if the weather is crappy.
...and perhaps most importantly...
The Glen is an amazing track to drive.
and its nasa so you will get approximately 22 minutes of track time the whole weekend
- Sijray21 - 02-08-2008
although this is still really far away since it is during the week i have to make sure that the project i will be on during that time isn't going through a critical time period (basically reserving the dates that far in advance still doesn't matter for the leave getting approved
)i definitely want to go though!
i'll have a better idea if i can go in a few months
- Apoc - 02-08-2008
Evan Wrote:and its nasa so you will get approximately 22 minutes of track time the whole weekend
There are no races that weekend so it will probably be more like 27.
- D_Eclipse9916 - 02-08-2008
I am interested!
- ViPER1313 - 02-08-2008
So am I - I'm just scared to death that if I wreck / break the car while in NY that I will be screwed.
- Maengelito - 02-08-2008
i'm definitely interested, i just gotta be sure that nothings goin on for work. also, i've never driven it, so i'm not sure i'd wanna instruct. for those that have been there, is it a difficult track to pick up?
- Apoc - 02-08-2008
Maengelito Wrote:for those that have been there, is it a difficult track to pick up?
I think it's kinda overwhelming. The line itself is actually really easy with only 1 tricky turn but it's so unlike any other track that you feel lost your first 2-3 sessions.
- Mike - 02-08-2008
ViPER1313 Wrote:So am I - I'm just scared to death that if I wreck / break the car while in NY that I will be screwed.
as i said, it's just about the same distance as VIR.
- Mike - 02-08-2008
oh and i don't know why i listed myself as instructing. i'll likely run group 4, but not teach.
maeng, experience instructing your first time at a new track?
- Maengelito - 02-08-2008
Mike Wrote:maeng, experience instructing your first time at a new track?
are you asking if i have done it before? yeah the first time i drove shenandoah, i was instructing. that was an interesting weekend
- Mike - 02-08-2008
recommend against it?
- Maengelito - 02-08-2008
not necessarily. you can pick up a lot of little tricks and landmarks just by doing research from those who have driven it and plenty have driven the glen. the first few sessions it was a bit hairy because you just need to get used to the way things are linked but car control is still car control, no matter what track you're on. while i havent looked into the glen yet, i imagine its something i could probably have a decent understanding of by the end of sat/beginning of sun. i may not be as fast or smooth as i am at familiar tracks, but you'll still be faster and smoother than your students.
- Andy - 02-08-2008
Well. Here's my two cents since no one asked for it. When a student pays for an instructor, he shouldn't have to learn the track with an instructor. Granted all of Maeng's points are valid, it strikes me as a little unethical to have another person subsidize your learning curve. I don't see a problem paying for a track weekend on occasion.
- Maengelito - 02-08-2008
Andy Wrote:Well. Here's my two cents since no one asked for it. When a student pays for an instructor, he shouldn't have to learn the track with an instructor. Granted all of Maeng's points are valid, it strikes me as a little unethical to have another person subsidize your learning curve. I don't see a problem paying for a track weekend on occasion.
i completely agree that if a student is paying to be taught, they should have someone that has a full understanding of what they're teaching. however, 1st session on saturday, you're not expecting the student to learn everything in that 25 minutes. you'll be lucky to get 5 laps in, let alone laps without traffic. in my particular situation, i had heard a lot of banter back and forth about "shenandoah is so hard and shenandoah isnt as hard as everyone says it is." its a very slow track, albeit technical, but not hard to pick up. i never felt like my student was off the pace of a normal learning curve because you really teach the basics at first to truly green students. but the concept of it i agree with andy.
- Evan - 02-08-2008
Andy Wrote:Well. Here's my two cents since no one asked for it. When a student pays for an instructor, he shouldn't have to learn the track with an instructor. Granted all of Maeng's points are valid, it strikes me as a little unethical to have another person subsidize your learning curve.+1
- Mike - 02-20-2008
bump. commit.