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New GM Diesel - Printable Version +- Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org) +-- Forum: Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Lounge (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=6) +--- Thread: New GM Diesel (/showthread.php?tid=6888) |
New GM Diesel - .RJ - 01-15-2008 No Manifolds! hock: Will be nice to get a diesel in a smaller truck - supposedly ford will have a V6 diesel in the F150 in 2010 as well. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.sae.org/automag/technewsletter/080108Tech/01.htm">http://www.sae.org/automag/technewslett ... ech/01.htm</a><!-- m --> ![]() Quote:General Motors has taken some of the wraps off of its 2010 Duramax diesel V8, revealing clever design features and technologies that clearly push the state-of-the-art in Vee-type compression-ignition engines. - Andy - 01-15-2008 Holy crap. I can't wait to see a cross section of the cylinder head. I wonder if this technology can/will filter down to gas engines? I can't see why not. - BLINGMW - 01-15-2008 Very cool. Isn't the Honda Insight's engine kind of like that, with integrated manifolds? Seems like a good idea, I wonder if other manufactures will start doing this if it's another step in the right direction for fuel economy and longevity. - Ginger - 01-15-2008 WOW! That thing is really cool. On an almost totally unrelated note - the Smart cars will be available with diesel motors shortly. 29,000psi seems silly high; are high fuel pressures normal for diesels? - BLINGMW - 01-15-2008 asteele2 Wrote:29,000psi seems silly high; are high fuel pressures normal for diesels? I think the common rail Cummins found in Dodge trucks is like ~23,000 with a high limit trip somewhere around 30,000, so.... yes! - Dave - 01-15-2008 the new diesels seem to be moving towards retarded high fuel pressures. I know the new Ford super duty has a silly high pressure as well. But the Ford is better b/c it has T-W-O turbos :-). - Ginger - 01-15-2008 Damn, that's insane! Don't make a mistake - that'll cut you wide open
- CaptainHenreh - 01-15-2008 asteele2 Wrote:29,000psi seems silly high; are high fuel pressures normal for diesels? Yes, since they have to inject directly into the cylinders. The exhaust-in-the-valley concept is something GM has been experimenting with in their Saab skunkworks for years. We might see it in gas engines, as there are alot of really tangible benefits for a turbo ICE. Nothing really super revolutionary here, but def. a step in the right direction! GM is talking about having turbodiesels in damn near everything. - BLINGMW - 01-15-2008 asteele2 Wrote:Damn, that's insane! Don't make a mistake - that'll cut you wide openIt certianly makes me hope that average Jim Bob isn't fooling around with the plumbing of that system. :| And yeah, it's like a ~$1000 pump, which is part of the reason diesel engines still cost more than gas even though they're technically simpler. - ScottyB - 01-15-2008 that engine is cool as hell. i had never heard of a manifold setup like that until now. - Shep - 01-15-2008 Cant blow the welds off your intake if you got no manifold! - ScottyB - 01-15-2008 Shep Wrote:Cant blow the welds off your intake if you got no manifold! does that mean it will take 3 of the "big ones?" - Shep - 01-15-2008 Harry may only give me 1 for that thing - the turbo is kinda small.... - HAULN-SS - 01-15-2008 So I don't read this as saying it's going in a smaller truck, do you? I thought it's saying it has to fit in the SBC envelope...which is not offered in trucks like the Colorado, right? - .RJ - 01-15-2008 HAULN-SS Wrote:So I don't read this as saying it's going in a smaller truck, do you? Smaller truck = 1/2 ton. - Ginger - 01-15-2008 Smaller as in 1500/150 size... I don't read that as compact truck. SBC sized motors are offered in those right now, but now diesels that I'm currently aware of. - white_2kgt - 01-15-2008 CaptainHenreh Wrote:asteele2 Wrote:29,000psi seems silly high; are high fuel pressures normal for diesels? Exactly, running higher compression ratio's to get better efficiency they have to get the fuel in there somehow, mo pressure! - ScottyB - 01-15-2008 CaptainHenreh Wrote:Yes, since they have to inject directly into the cylinders. i thought that engine looked familiar....
- BLAIR - 01-15-2008 a diesel with be avail. in smaller dodge truck vehicles here soon too. a v6 td i believe probably similar to the grand cher. diesel motor |