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two wheels or four wheels? - Printable Version

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two wheels or four wheels? - jmualfaracer - 06-24-2004

Im not sure what its like in the states, but in europe people who race cars and bikers dont get along at all... bikers argue that cars lack thrill and risk and entail a lot more skill and adaptation to surroundings... most racers have this negatuve view that buying a bike is like putting a down payment on a coffin... I cant really drive bikes other than atv's and mt5's, but i have to agree that theres a lot more thrill involved... bikers also argue that theres more talent required (reflexes, study of physical movments blah blha blah... any thoughts ????


- Sijray21 - 06-24-2004

i for one have never ridden or driven a motorcycle before but they intrest me. I'm a fan of both. It doesn't seem to me like there is a big conflict between bikers and car drivers.


- jmualfaracer - 06-24-2004

true but some people dont see it that way.. i mean when you think about it, its two completly different dimensions... but still, i cant think of a car that would be worth racing against a superbike... it would be kinda useless


- Sijray21 - 06-24-2004

i've seen nitrous bikes at the drag stip. they're freaky, did about 7.5 sec in the 1/4 mile at about 183 mph. Some may say death on wheels, to which i would agree. If i were to ride one i'd probably change my mind about bikes for the better or worse, but they interest me.


- .RJ - 06-24-2004

jmualfaracer Wrote:its two completly different dimensions...

No its not. They both have engines and wheels and you drive them fast.

Quote:cant think of a car that would be worth racing against a superbike... it would be kinda useless

Porsche GT3 (or something similar) will give a bike quite a run. I've got a vid at home, I think.


- Sijray21 - 06-24-2004

i don't know about the GT3, but the GT2 could definitly


- jmualfaracer - 06-24-2004

gt3???? I dont know enough to affirm that, but i was under the impression that superbike acceleration was unbeatable by any four wheeler


- .RJ - 06-24-2004

theguywiththeSi Wrote:i don't know about the GT3, but the GT2 could definitly

I doubt that a GT2 is that much faster on track, if any.

GT3 is lighter and is more track oriented than the GT2. Not that I can get my hands on either of them Wink


- G.Irish - 06-24-2004

For the price to performance ratio bikes are supreme, no doubt about it. Some race cars can be faster than bikes around road courses (mostly open wheeled cars) but that's because they have 4 contact patches instead of two.

As for the skill involved, racing a bike requires one to pay attention to the additional axes of roll and sometimes pitch as opposed to just yaw in a car. In layman's terms, you can't lay down or high side a car.


- .RJ - 06-24-2004

jmualfaracer Wrote:gt3???? I dont know enough to affirm that, but i was under the impression that superbike acceleration was unbeatable by any four wheeler

Acceleration != Lap times


- jmualfaracer - 06-24-2004

so ur saying on a straight most cars wouldnt stand a chance... but evry course has straights to make up lost time... what about curve speed, the pro bikes take turns at crazy ass speeds... wouldnt bikes have an advantage... passing is not a lot easier ????


- .RJ - 06-24-2004

jmualfaracer Wrote:what about curve speed, the pro bikes take turns at crazy ass speeds... wouldnt bikes have an advantage...

No.

"crazy ass speeds" hah, maybe you should ride with Yack Wink


- JackoliciousLegs - 06-24-2004

how many Gs can bikes pull? edit: laterally..


- .RJ - 06-24-2004

1.21 Gigawatts @ 88mph


- jmualfaracer - 06-24-2004

yack ??


- Sijray21 - 06-24-2004

i guess the only big difference would be that if a bike hits a pebble during a turn he's fuxored whereas if a car where to do the same probably wouldn't effect it.


- jmualfaracer - 06-24-2004

i wanted to get a bike instead of the wrangler, but i figure too much of a hassle to have to learn to ride it and deal with the fucking snow in hburg...


- JackoliciousLegs - 06-24-2004

bike != year round DD


- jmualfaracer - 06-24-2004

haha, any of you driven overseas???


- Sijray21 - 06-24-2004

keep the wranger and get a cheap bike. I'm planning on signing up for lessons in the near future and learning how to ride one. The bike fever is spreading in MM :twisted: .