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This is why you should use a torque wrench on your wheels! - Printable Version

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This is why you should use a torque wrench on your wheels! - white_2kgt - 06-12-2007

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- ScottyB - 06-12-2007

whaaaaaaaaaat?! that's the most outrageous thing i've ever seen. how does that.....happen like that? that guy must be beyond embarrassed.


- Mike - 06-12-2007

correction: this is why you should use lugnuts on your wheels. even finger tight, that wouldn't have happened (ask me how i know).


- Maengelito - 06-12-2007

lol, i heard about that but i hadnt seen the video of it. drive it til the wheels fall off, whoooooya!!!!!!


- Sijray21 - 06-12-2007

Mike Wrote:correction: this is why you should use lugnuts on your wheels. even finger tight, that wouldn't have happened (ask me how i know).

how do you know? Wink

i remember i didn't tighten my lugnuts once (passenger-side front wheel). I started driving down the road on the highway around 60mph and started to slow due to traffic. i felt some vibration, it felt as if a wheel was not balanced correctly. I tried to use the nearest exit and the steering became difficult and heavy. When i stopped to look at it all the nuts were still there, but i could see a gap between the wheel and the lug nuts and i fixed it immediately.

i don' think this guy even put the nuts back on, those wheels FLEW off the car! either way - that sucks!


- white_2kgt - 06-12-2007

the story I got was he used the wrong lugs for the studs (fine vs coarse threads), not sure that I buy that, but had he used a torque wrench he would have never gotten them to the proper torque.


- BLINGMW - 06-12-2007

bahaha wow that sucked :!:


- Apoc - 06-12-2007

Would seem to me that someone did that on purpose. I really can't imagine someone would forget to put lugs on all the wheels and I don't buy they were improper threads.


- ScottyB - 06-12-2007

Apoc Wrote:I don't buy they were improper threads.

taken from another thread "However, as soon as the car reached a certain speed, enough force was generated to rip the threads out of the lugs; the threads in the lugs themselves were stripped out of the lugs are were laying on the track and stuck to the guy's new Toyos."

can't verify if that poster was really there but it seems plausible to me.


- JackoliciousLegs - 06-12-2007

WOW...


- HAULN-SS - 06-12-2007

i cant view the video..can someone give me the run-down?

edit: or the MS paint version


- JustinG - 06-13-2007

ill be purchasing a torque wrench tommorrow


- CaptainHenreh - 06-13-2007

white97dsm Wrote:ill be purchasing a torque wrench tommorrow

I need a new one, my old one (apparently) is just a big breaker bar now. I saw a nifty digital one in sears, on sale for 199. Too rich for my blood atm, but that's probably what I'll buy next.


- white_2kgt - 06-13-2007

CaptainHenreh Wrote:
white97dsm Wrote:ill be purchasing a torque wrench tommorrow

I need a new one, my old one (apparently) is just a big breaker bar now. I saw a nifty digital one in sears, on sale for 199. Too rich for my blood atm, but that's probably what I'll buy next.

I just got a new Craftsman TQ wrench, it wasn't the digital but it has numbers that show up in a little window, MUCH easier to read than the twist style. It was a 3/8 so I was only like $100. Watch for them to go on sale.

Now for wheels, I just use the cheep Harbor Freight wrenches (and Mike uses them (mine) to roll his fenders). Who cares if the lugs are 1% difference in torque.

A friend of mine just got a new Snap On 1/2" tq wrench, digital and it counts out degrees (like when you have a bolt that says torque to 50ft lbs then turn 180*). It was $800....


- Ginger - 06-13-2007

white_2kgt Wrote:A friend of mine just got a new Snap On 1/2" tq wrench, digital and it counts out degrees (like when you have a bolt that says torque to 50ft lbs then turn 180*). It was $800....

Phil [PGK] has a all 3 sizes of those. I guess that's what you buy when you turn wrenches for a living.

I've got the Snap On 3/8" digital without the angle torque feature. It's nice. I've also got a Matco 1/2" click-type.. works great. I've never had a problem with any click type wrench, they're just not the bligny thing on the market anymore.

Now, I've got a beam type 1/4"... I wouldn't really wish that on anybody.


- white_2kgt - 06-13-2007

asteele2 Wrote:
white_2kgt Wrote:A friend of mine just got a new Snap On 1/2" tq wrench, digital and it counts out degrees (like when you have a bolt that says torque to 50ft lbs then turn 180*). It was $800....

Phil [PGK] has a all 3 sizes of those. I guess that's what you buy when you turn wrenches for a living.

I've got the Snap On 3/8" digital without the angle torque feature. It's nice. I've also got a Matco 1/2" click-type.. works great. I've never had a problem with any click type wrench, they're just not the bligny thing on the market anymore.

Now, I've got a beam type 1/4"... I wouldn't really wish that on anybody.

All my TQ wrenches are 'click' type. I do have a beam style and I hate that thing, but it is damn accurate...the resolution is a little tough though.

You really have a 1/4" beam tq wrench? Damn. I don't even own a 1/4" torque wrench, nothing I torque is that damn small lol


- Ginger - 06-13-2007

I bought it years ago when I worked a little hardware store. It's just right for all the little fasteners you run into on a motorcycle, it's just too cumbersome to want to use.


- Maengelito - 06-13-2007

white_2kgt Wrote:Now for wheels, I just use the cheep Harbor Freight wrenches (and Mike uses them (mine) to roll his fenders). Who cares if the lugs are 1% difference in torque.

agreed. thats exactly what i use for wheels as well. i own a 3/8" husky i bought a long time ago and i'm convinced is not that accurate and the 1/2" from HF for wheels. i dont assemble engines and nothing i put together requires precision for tq specs, so i think those two wrenches will get me between 20-25 ft lbs if something calls for exactly 21 ft lbs.


- white_2kgt - 06-13-2007

Apoc Wrote:Would seem to me that someone did that on purpose. I really can't imagine someone would forget to put lugs on all the wheels and I don't buy they were improper threads.

It also seems like he had wheel spacers on there with stock studs. So he wasn't getting much thread engagement, add that to the fact he had the wrong lugs, wheels popped off. Sounds like the guy was just a bone head. Damn glad it takes at least a little common sense to get out of HPDE1...keep these jack-off's in the parking lots where they can (usually) only hurt their own cars.


- Goodspeed - 06-13-2007

white_2kgt Wrote:http://www.teamjamoto.com/dixeregionpage.htm

uuuhhhhhh....................tech inspection?