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Title IX - Printable Version +- Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org) +-- Forum: Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Lounge (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=6) +--- Thread: Title IX (/showthread.php?tid=4860) Pages:
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Title IX - Hunter - 09-30-2006 So I just heard that JMU is cutting 10 varsity sports teams Quote:September 29, 2006 So is it just me or does Title IX completely miss the point. The point is to have equal oppurtunities for men and womens sports, but when you have to cut sports teams that are providing those oppurtunities to students it's not good for anyone. I just feel bad for all the people on those teams that suddenly have to find a new school if they want to keep playing sports. I was just wondering if people we're making a big deal about this around campus (Im not exactly close by anymore). - Feersty - 09-30-2006 Very interesting. Re: Title IX - .RJ - 09-30-2006 Hunter Wrote:So is it just me or does Title IX completely miss the point. A lot of gov't mandates/programs miss the point. Its unfortunate to see the sports teams getting thrown under the bus in the name of compliance with some gov't regulation. - Mike - 09-30-2006 Wow, that is huge. - Goodspeed - 09-30-2006 I got the impression that the reason for the change is that if males typically make up around 40% of the population, but have more than twice as many teams, that the application process would be biased towards athletes and unfair, is this correct? Either way it sucks for the athletes, I doubt it matters much to them that their scholarships will be kept, they want to play the sport so I think we'll be seeing a lot of them leave next year. Plus our basketball team sucks. And yet they are keeping that and giving our highly ranked award winning archery team the axe. WTF is up with that? - HAULN-SS - 10-01-2006 They want to break into 1A football eventually probably. Cant very well do that when you have to give equal funding to all those teams - Apoc - 10-01-2006 It seems that JMU's gender bias is working against the guys for once. Kinda stinks of affirmative action. - BLAIR - 10-01-2006 a few of my freinds are here on track and x country scholarships.. but they get to keep the scholarship, but they are all leaving JMU because they want to persue a career is running after college.... SUCKS BIG TIME - Feersty - 10-01-2006 HAULN-SS Wrote:They want to break into 1A football eventually probably. Unlikely. Need the money, the stadium, the scholarships, and the student population to even consider it. - bassmangrammy - 10-01-2006 Yeah. I close friend of mine, Jed, just won the NCAA national championships in Archery. Take that in... JMU has the national archery champion. Well they did! I know JMU's AD, Jeff Bourne, personally and I will give him my thoughts here next time I see him. You know since I'm a student, oh wait nevermind, I'm not a financial supporter... I won't waste my breath. I thought he had more backbone. But I blame title IX... I'm sorry but that law is fucking stupid. Oh and wait, did Golf get cut?! Our golf team sucks ass, but golfing familys' donate money! I say we protest! - Mike - 10-01-2006 hasn't jmu always had a really good archery program? and to cut women's gymnastics as well? weird... maybe i'm overvaluing the gymnastics team because i knew a lot of them, but... this is just nutso. - Apoc - 10-01-2006 BLAIR Wrote:a few of my freinds are here on track and x country scholarships.. but they get to keep the scholarship, but they are all leaving JMU because they want to persue a career is running after college.... SUCKS BIG TIME A career running? What sort of straight up running careers are there? (seriously asking) - Mike - 10-01-2006 Apoc Wrote:BLAIR Wrote:a few of my freinds are here on track and x country scholarships.. but they get to keep the scholarship, but they are all leaving JMU because they want to persue a career is running after college.... SUCKS BIG TIME a few of the people i ran with in high school do it. it isn't too glorious unless you make it to the olympic level, but it is fulfilling and pays the bills. you typically sign with a team (usually a shoe company) and live in their "house," which is kind of like a frat house, but for runners. if you start winning big races you can get bigger endorsements... sort of like any pro athlete, but on a lesser scale. - BLAIR - 10-02-2006 dont ask me what kinda career they have in it.. i do know they are working to qualify for the olympics.. we are takin sub 4 min. mile guys.. so they are no joke - G.Irish - 10-02-2006 On one hand I see what they're trying to do and in theory it makes sense. If you have 60% women at your school you on paper shouldn't have more men's teams than women. But that doesn't take into account that maybe more men play sports than women do on average. I kind of don't understand what the net good of all this should be. Will the remaining teams have more money now? Will scholarships be more evenly distributed? The intent seems good but like a lot of things good intent sometimes leads to terrible results and unintended consequences. - BLINGMW - 10-02-2006 What exactly is the incentive for the school to conform to this title IX bullshit? Are they forced to? Face penalties if they don't? Do they get grant money from the state if they do? Some sort of twisted bragging rights? I just wonder who decided that the payoff is worth the disdain from the students. I'd like to know what JMU now gets because they decided to do this. - Dragon - 10-02-2006 My biggest gripe - How can you get rid of women's gymnastics, they're just as flexible as cheerleaders and not as annoying! Truly a shame. - Kaan - 10-02-2006 JMU is trying to go Div 1A. thats why the stadium and parking deck changed/added. All these moves were made for the football team. and i'll continually stand behind this statement. if they gave MM the football team budget... we'd get them more press
- BLINGMW - 10-02-2006 Kaan Wrote:... we'd get them more press yes, a sudden, massive rise in vehicular homicide and spectacular, multi-vehicle crashes by JMU students driving Ferraris would likely make the news. - Sijray21 - 10-02-2006 i knew a lot of student athletes personally, through classes, and through friends. knowing that their sport was a big part of their life this news is really a dissapointment to hear. I understand complying with government regulations, but i don't believe that this is fair. i don't believe that the participation margin between the population of JMU and the NCAA participation is that different to warrant the Title IX enforcement. This just dissapoints me... |