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track report :: summit point jefferson :: 08.13.06 - .paul - 08-14-2006

Well, another track day, and talk about BOOTYFUL weather.

530am :: wake up

600am :: starbucks which ended up being free since they did not have the cash register in.. awesome

630am :: run into Brian (BrianE30) on the toll RD... sweet

720am :: unpack and tech

820am :: riders meeting

940am :: first time out.. was getting used to riding a japo bike from a vtwin, had been a few months since I had rode the gixxer anywhere, the power difference between the 600 and the 1000 really shows, as well as the engine breaking not being anywhere on the 600. I took it slow getting readjusted to the bike, getting back to track form.

1040am :: second time out, feeling a lot more comfortable, carrying a lot more speed, knee is down almost at every corner, and hitting the entrance, apex and exit turns as I am wanting to. This may sound weird to a lot of people, but to me, literally talking to myself through out the track really helps, and I was able to talk myself through bad situations, and so forth. I felt like I had picked up a significant amount of speed, and was a lot more comfortable on the gixxer.

1140am :: BLAM, i am out there and bookin it, zooming through the turns, letting off the gas at the 4th brake marker, and getting on the brakes at the 2nd, really getting a feel for the brakes. and being able to trail brake into the turns. kind of scary at first when i realized what I was doing, cause i guess the thought of the front tucking bling blao, but I was able to maintain, and some shaky situations i pulled off. couple laps into it, one of the course riders, who is wicked fast, rolled up and put me behind him and i followed him around a few times, i was executing everything perfectly, and we were just ROLLING through the pact, really just grooving through the track, every lap we picked up the pace..... UNTIL the damn bus stop. I have an issue with that turn because last time I was here there was oil on the apex of the turn, and I almost high sided.. i flew off but held on and slammed back on the bike. anyhow - i felt I had carried too much speed, and if i were to get on the brakes anymore, the front would tuck. so i picked the bike up and proceeded to continue off track... BUT if any of you have been to jefferson, coming off track there leaves you with 10 yards of run off before the trees. so i rear brake it, rear brake locks i fall. no biggie.. i give the thumbs up to the corner worker, pick the bike up, and when he tells me i pull back on track and pit.

bike suffered a broken rear set, and some nice grass stains on the plastics. helmet is fine, suit, etc. etc. but i hit the same knee as last time, and it is pretty bruised again, making a doctors appointment today.

I went and talked with the course rider after the fall, and he was praising me, saying that my form was awesome, and when he was following me, he said my lines were great, and that i was consistant with them. he said he enjoyed the ride, and had a blast taking me around. i had a fsckin blast following him. he said my speed was up to par of the top of the Intermediate group, and to get the bike fixed and get back out there.

I found someone to lend me another rear set, but i could not put weight on the knee to move around on the seat.. sad so packed up and went home.

crash was kind of stupid, after the ride home and thinking about it, i could have taken the turn at the speed, but I just did not trust the bike. but you learn from that, I can not wait till september granted my knee is okay.

teaser pic:

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- Mike - 08-14-2006

"letting off the gas at the 4th and on the brakes at the 2nd"

you should never be coasting... it is slow. if you stay on the gas and have to then brake at the 3rd marker, it will be faster.

heard you crashed, glad it doesn't sound too bad.

- Evan - 08-14-2006

what is "the bus stop" ?
is that something that they put in with cones for bikes?

- .RJ - 08-14-2006

The run Jefferson clockwise (backwards from what we're used to)... they call this the bus stop

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- .paul - 08-14-2006

i see what you are saying mike, i still have issues with long straights, and braking - it is something i need to work on, the CR said i should be WOT until 2nd, and trail brake it in, but it is something to work on.

the turn before the bus stop is so fast, you carry a lot of momentum, and you have to be pretty hard on the brakes, and you really need to hit that turn properly to go through the esses with the quickness and to be able to rocket out of the last turn.

jefferson is a small short track, but man does it do wonders for your skill/endurance/confidence.

- Maengelito - 08-14-2006

.RJ Wrote:[Image: wMTI5MTIzOTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg]

where's trogdor?

- Evan - 08-14-2006

.RJ Wrote:The run Jefferson clockwise (backwards from what we're used to)... they call this the bus stop

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interesting....

a section like t5-t8 is what is usually referred to as a bus stop, because it..uh....is shaped like a bus top.
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- G.Irish - 08-14-2006

Werd, I didn't know that's where the bus stop term came from, learn something new every day.