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Grad thesis - LorenaBeana - 09-03-2005
Ok. So put on your thinking caps. I have come up with an idea for a thesis, and thought maybe ya'll could help a sister out a little. So I want to combine my two loves in my project, which would be cardiology and cars. SO - this is my idea: Determine the extent of demand placed on the heart when stressed and at rest. Stressed being say, in a 20-30 minute race session on a given track, rest being while in the paddock. There is a this thing called a holter monitor which is kinda like a portable EKG that just runs continuously, and I could hook it up to someone for say 20 minutes while hanging out in the paddock, and then while they are on track. I could see rate/rhythm changes, if there is any ectopy, etc. Whatta ya'll think? Would it negatively impact the racing experience and/or jeapordize someone's safety to do that? IRB will probably not be happy with my idea, but hey, I'm not asking people to do something dangerous, they got into racing themselves! So, any thoughts are welcome.
- ScottyB - 09-03-2005
i think that'a a great idea! i think it would be great if we could get people together for karting, and see if you could plug up a heart monitor to someone for the karting sessions. or, rotate between different size people or people of different builds to see the difference in heart rates and their correlation to the types of people they correspond to.
i distinctly remember last time i was karting in richmond, i came away from the first 15 minute session sweating, and the last 15 minute session shaking and exhausted. i would have loved to have known what my heart rate was during those 2 sessions.
Re: Grad thesis - damnit458 - 09-03-2005
LorenaBeana Wrote:Ok. So put on your thinking caps. I have come up with an idea for a thesis, and thought maybe ya'll could help a sister out a little. So I want to combine my two loves in my project, which would be cardiology and cars. SO - this is my idea: Determine the extent of demand placed on the heart when stressed and at rest. Stressed being say, in a 20-30 minute race session on a given track, rest being while in the paddock. There is a this thing called a holter monitor which is kinda like a portable EKG that just runs continuously, and I could hook it up to someone for say 20 minutes while hanging out in the paddock, and then while they are on track. I could see rate/rhythm changes, if there is any ectopy, etc. Whatta ya'll think? Would it negatively impact the racing experience and/or jeapordize someone's safety to do that? IRB will probably not be happy with my idea, but hey, I'm not asking people to do something dangerous, they got into racing themselves! So, any thoughts are welcome.
That sounds awesome! I see no reason why that couldnt be done (as you said it really does not affect safety) and I honestly think that the information you find would be incredibly interesting. Why not take it a step further and find a full race session, maybe a 3 or 4 hour enduro, along with the control and the 20 min session?
Edit: Or, you could perhaps look at the difference, if any, between HPDE, and full fledged races (look at the correlation between experience on track and heart rate/rhythm).
- G.Irish - 09-03-2005
I think you could probably get input on this project from some of the pro race guys. It might be interesting to see the differences between them and club racers.
- Mike - 09-03-2005
the differences between different types of racing even... stock car, club racer, motocross, formula car, motorcycle.
could mean meeting some big names!
- Ryan T - 09-03-2005
If you were only able to do one event though you could split it up and see the differences between those in HPD1 HPD2 HPD3 and Instructor group. See if the heart rythms change much as one experience in the sport broadens.
- LorenaBeana - 09-03-2005
Ryan T Wrote:If you were only able to do one event though you could split it up and see the differences between those in HPD1 HPD2 HPD3 and Instructor group. See if the heart rythms change much as one experience in the sport broadens.
I dunno, I think that if I were an instructor, despite my level of expertise, I'd have a fast heart rate just because I'd be scared to death to be in the passenger seat with some of those guys.
- Ryan T - 09-03-2005
But the heart rate of someone driving in HPD1 could be higher than that of someone in HPD4 because they are less experienced in the game. As ones body adapts to the experience of driving on track, perhaps their heart rate lowers. You may also notice a different from HPD2 to HPD3 when they no longer need an instructor in the car. I think it'd be a really interesting experiment.
- Mike - 09-03-2005
Ryan T Wrote:But the heart rate of someone driving in HPD1 could be higher than that of someone in HPD4 because they are less experienced in the game. As ones body adapts to the experience of driving on track, perhaps their heart rate lowers. You may also notice a different from HPD2 to HPD3 when they no longer need an instructor in the car. I think it'd be a really interesting experiment.
or likewise it could be slower because they aren't as close to the limit.
- Ryan T - 09-03-2005
Mike Wrote:Ryan T Wrote:But the heart rate of someone driving in HPD1 could be higher than that of someone in HPD4 because they are less experienced in the game. As ones body adapts to the experience of driving on track, perhaps their heart rate lowers. You may also notice a different from HPD2 to HPD3 when they no longer need an instructor in the car. I think it'd be a really interesting experiment.
or likewise it could be slower because they aren't as close to the limit.
Exactly, two potential hypotheses, it'd be a good experiment.
Good thinking Lorena.
- .RJ - 09-03-2005
Ryan T Wrote:But the heart rate of someone driving in HPD1 could be higher than that of someone in HPD4 because they are less experienced in the game.
If i'm not all red misted and shit, sometimes I get pretty bored on track if its empty
- Evan - 09-03-2005
Id love to see the results of this, and especially of myself.
In "Inner Speed Secrets" Ross Bentley talks about similar testing and how the best drivers in the world barely get their heart rates worked up during a race
- Evan - 09-03-2005
.RJ Wrote:If i'm not all red misted and shit, sometimes I get pretty bored on track if its emptytranslation: RJ is never bored on track
- damnit458 - 09-04-2005
Evan Wrote:Id love to see the results of this, and especially of myself.
In "Inner Speed Secrets" Ross Bentley talks about similar testing and how the best drivers in the world barely get their heart rates worked up during a race
This to me is really interesting. I've never been on track, and yet to me going on there w/o even a raise in HB (or atleat a significant one) seems rediculous to me. Still though, let us all know what you decide, it seems like a great thesis topic, and im sure I speak for all of us when I say we all look forward to the research being done. Best of luck! :thumbup:
- navin - 09-04-2005
Theres something like this in "Faster" - talking about Biagi's and Rossi's heartrates...
cool idea though!
- Kaan - 09-04-2005
does this mean we are going to have you come out to the track more often?
- Maengelito - 09-04-2005
navin Wrote:Theres something like this in "Faster" - talking about Biagi's and Rossi's heartrates...
cool idea though!
they said that biaggi's heartbeat gets up to like 180-200 bpm or something like that and rossi's stays at 120 bpm "like a child playing".
- Feersty - 09-04-2005
I think there is no problem with this idea. It is workable.
Tom Feerst BS, RN
Cardiac Nurse
- Ryan T - 09-04-2005
I think this is a fantastic idea. You can do many things with it.
Ryan Thayer, Student
Sheetz product distribution engineer.
- Feersty - 09-04-2005
Ryan T Wrote:I think this is a fantastic idea. You can do many things with it.
Ryan Thayer, Student
Sheetz product distribution engineer.
no creditability man sorry. :finger: