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I hate pigs, and this is how I'm going to get even. - Andy - 01-02-2005
I was pulled over on 81-S at 9:35 tonight near Woodstock by Officer Miller. Not for speeding, not for reckless behavior but for illegal exhaust. Officer Miller was sitting on the rightside grass while I was driving by on the left lane going 78mph, and that craphead wants to tell me my exhaust was too loud. So, I'm going to ask my friend who's a sound technician for Southard Audio to take decibel readings from a stock prelude, and my prelude, and bring it to court, and rape officer miller w/ it. And I don't mean figuratively, I'm actually going to stick the paperwork up his ass. Sounds like a plan to me. I've gotten 5 non-speeding tickets in the last 2.5 weeks. All for some dumb stuff. Travis in his loud ass Eclipse sped by me in front of a cop, and I got pulled over.
Re: I hate pigs, and this is how I'm going to get even. - ViPER1313 - 01-02-2005
jackstands Wrote:I was pulled over on 81-S at 9:35 tonight near Woodstock by Officer Miller. Not for speeding, not for reckless behavior but for illegal exhaust. Officer Miller was sitting on the rightside grass while I was driving by on the left lane going 78mph, and that craphead wants to tell me my exhaust was too loud. So, I'm going to ask my friend who's a sound technician for Southard Audio to take decibel readings from a stock prelude, and my prelude, and bring it to court, and rape officer miller w/ it. And I don't mean figuratively, I'm actually going to stick the paperwork up his ass. Sounds like a plan to me. I've gotten 5 non-speeding tickets in the last 2.5 weeks. All for some dumb stuff. Travis in his loud ass Eclipse sped by me in front of a cop, and I got pulled over.
God I love living in the country.
Re: I hate pigs, and this is how I'm going to get even. - Myuki - 01-02-2005
jackstands Wrote:.....take decibel readings from a stock prelude, and my prelude, and bring it to court, and rape officer miller w/ it. And I don't mean figuratively, I'm actually going to stick the paperwork up his ass. Sounds like a plan to me....yes. sounds like a plan....wtf? what's with the analness of exhausts?
- CaptainHenreh - 01-03-2005
The analness of exhaust:
It's a (practically) unfightable ticket, it's easy to write, and it allows law enforcement to harass car enthusiasts without having to worry about repercussions.
Unjust laws breed harassment and prejudice.
Good luck, Andy.
- BLINGMW - 01-03-2005
this is getting stupid. :evil: You guys need to set that town ablaze to give them something else to think about for a minute.
Re: I hate pigs, and this is how I'm going to get even. - mpg9999 - 01-03-2005
jackstands Wrote:I was pulled over on 81-S at 9:35 tonight near Woodstock by Officer Miller. Not for speeding, not for reckless behavior but for illegal exhaust. Officer Miller was sitting on the rightside grass while I was driving by on the left lane going 78mph, and that craphead wants to tell me my exhaust was too loud. So, I'm going to ask my friend who's a sound technician for Southard Audio to take decibel readings from a stock prelude, and my prelude, and bring it to court, and rape officer miller w/ it. And I don't mean figuratively, I'm actually going to stick the paperwork up his ass. Sounds like a plan to me. I've gotten 5 non-speeding tickets in the last 2.5 weeks. All for some dumb stuff. Travis in his loud ass Eclipse sped by me in front of a cop, and I got pulled over.
It does suck, but unfortunatly, you will loose because the exhaust is still illegal according to va law. Decibel readings also have to be done according to SAE standards (J1169), but that would be if we even had a law like that, like California does. Guess who is largely responsible for that? SEMA. Your better off having the club members join SEMA, and contact your legislator to complain, and suggest a SEMA sponsored bill. In fact, I have a copy of a bill that could be used in va that Steve McDonald from SEMA sent me.
- Dave - 01-03-2005
Officer Miller. Hmmmmm, that one sounds familiar; I think he pulled me over for the same thing sometime this year. Granted its possible its a different guy, but the fact that he was sitting on the interstate near Woodstock leads me to think it is not just pure coincidence.
Easiest way to get out of that ticket is to simply tell the judge that it is a factory exhaust and there is nothing done to it. Unless he took a picture of it or took measurements and recorded it down, he'll have no way to fight it; innocent until proven guilty.
- KPWSerpiente - 01-03-2005
I don't have to guess...I know Officer Miller pulled me over for the same thing mid last semester. Same MO and all. Hope it goes well Andy.
-T
- Chris - 01-03-2005
jeez I can't even keep up with all your tickets! Would you ever put back the stock exhaust to save yourself the hassle of tickets??
- Mike - 01-03-2005
BLINGMW Wrote:You guys need to set that town ablaze to give them something else to think about for a minute.
we tried my freshman year... miller is the same one who nailed me last year for the same thing... only way to win is to bring in a receipt from a muffler shop saying you got a new one installed.
- Andy - 01-03-2005
Dave Wrote:Officer Miller. Hmmmmm, that one sounds familiar; I think he pulled me over for the same thing sometime this year. Granted its possible its a different guy, but the fact that he was sitting on the interstate near Woodstock leads me to think it is not just pure coincidence.
Easiest way to get out of that ticket is to simply tell the judge that it is a factory exhaust and there is nothing done to it. Unless he took a picture of it or took measurements and recorded it down, he'll have no way to fight it; innocent until proven guilty.
This is the third time Miller has pulled my over, not once for speeding. I'm sure you know him, he's the young looking dude. I don't think perjuring myself is necesarily a good idea.
I bought the car from a ricer so I never had a stock exhaust.
If I have paperwork that says my car is 50 state legal and actual testing that says my exhaust is as quiet as my stock exhaust and tell the judge that officer bunghole couldn't have possibly heard the difference while I was going 78 mph and he was sitting on the side of the road, why can't I "get away with it." It's completely arbitrary thing. He said that any exhaust system that didn't come from the factory is illegal but in that case, any exhaust that any parts store sells is illegal.
- white_2kgt - 01-03-2005
jackstands Wrote:Dave Wrote:Officer Miller. Hmmmmm, that one sounds familiar; I think he pulled me over for the same thing sometime this year. Granted its possible its a different guy, but the fact that he was sitting on the interstate near Woodstock leads me to think it is not just pure coincidence.
Easiest way to get out of that ticket is to simply tell the judge that it is a factory exhaust and there is nothing done to it. Unless he took a picture of it or took measurements and recorded it down, he'll have no way to fight it; innocent until proven guilty.
This is the third time Miller has pulled my over, not once for speeding. I'm sure you know him, he's the young looking dude. I don't think perjuring myself is necesarily a good idea.
I bought the car from a ricer so I never had a stock exhaust.
If I have paperwork that says my car is 50 state legal and actual testing that says my exhaust is as quiet as my stock exhaust and tell the judge that officer bunghole couldn't have possibly heard the difference while I was going 78 mph and he was sitting on the side of the road, why can't I "get away with it." It's completely arbitrary thing. He said that any exhaust system that didn't come from the factory is illegal but in that case, any exhaust that any parts store sells is illegal.
So when the mufflers on my 89 mustang fell off on the interstate at 60mph and I pulled into the nearest mineke and had them weld in new ones that was illegal :roll: stupid me, should have left them open headers.
--chad
- Mike - 01-03-2005
as dumb as the law is, yes chad, that was illegal. that is what killed me about the law when i was preparing my case. in the end i realized it was unbeatable, but luckily i had a new muffler on the way that sounds pretty close to stock in normal driving.
- mpg9999 - 01-03-2005
jackstands Wrote:Dave Wrote:Officer Miller. Hmmmmm, that one sounds familiar; I think he pulled me over for the same thing sometime this year. Granted its possible its a different guy, but the fact that he was sitting on the interstate near Woodstock leads me to think it is not just pure coincidence.
Easiest way to get out of that ticket is to simply tell the judge that it is a factory exhaust and there is nothing done to it. Unless he took a picture of it or took measurements and recorded it down, he'll have no way to fight it; innocent until proven guilty.
This is the third time Miller has pulled my over, not once for speeding. I'm sure you know him, he's the young looking dude. I don't think perjuring myself is necesarily a good idea.
I bought the car from a ricer so I never had a stock exhaust.
If I have paperwork that says my car is 50 state legal and actual testing that says my exhaust is as quiet as my stock exhaust and tell the judge that officer bunghole couldn't have possibly heard the difference while I was going 78 mph and he was sitting on the side of the road, why can't I "get away with it." It's completely arbitrary thing. He said that any exhaust system that didn't come from the factory is illegal but in that case, any exhaust that any parts store sells is illegal.
It probably states that its 50 state emmisions legal. The va law is very subjective, but yes, your exhaust is still illegal. See my first post for what to do about it.
- bluhayz - 01-03-2005
Probably shouldn't tell them you were going 78 MPH either....
- KPWSerpiente - 01-03-2005
Quote: as dumb as the law is, yes chad, that was illegal. that is what killed me about the law when i was preparing my case. in the end i realized it was unbeatable, but luckily i had a new muffler on the way that sounds pretty close to stock in normal driving.
No Mike. It wasn't.
-T
- Mike - 01-03-2005
KPWSerpiente Wrote:Quote: as dumb as the law is, yes chad, that was illegal. that is what killed me about the law when i was preparing my case. in the end i realized it was unbeatable, but luckily i had a new muffler on the way that sounds pretty close to stock in normal driving.
No Mike. It wasn't.
-T
i just checked the law and it has changed since i was in court. i stand corrected.
Code of Virginia Wrote:§ 46.2-1049. Exhaust system in good working order.
No person shall drive and no owner of a motor vehicle shall permit or allow the operation of any vehicle on a highway unless it is equipped with an exhaust system of a type installed as standard factory equipment, or comparable to that designed for use on the particular vehicle as standard factory equipment, in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise. An exhaust system shall not be deemed to prevent excessive or unusual noise if it permits the escape of noise in excess of that permitted by the standard factory equipment exhaust system of private passenger motor vehicles or trucks of standard make.
The term "exhaust system," as used in this section, means all the parts of a motor vehicle through which the exhaust passes after leaving the engine block.
Chambered pipes are not an effective muffling device to prevent excessive or unusual noise.
- KPWSerpiente - 01-04-2005
No worries.
-T
- ViPER1313 - 01-04-2005
MichaelJComputer Wrote:i just checked the law and it has changed since i was in court. i stand corrected.
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