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Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Printable Version +- Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org) +-- Forum: Madison Motorsports (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Lounge (https://forum.mmsports.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=6) +--- Thread: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars (/showthread.php?tid=11324) |
Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - G.Irish - 11-29-2016 I agree with a lot of points here, but I wouldn't think anything more of it except that apparently a number of people felt a little salty about it (judging from r/cars comments). I wanted to see what MM's take on it is. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/6208/the-5-ways-people-ruin-their-cars">http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/6208/th ... their-cars</a><!-- m --> Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Jake - 11-29-2016 Agreed on all of it, aside from the "modding into the next price bracket" bit. In that case, if you really love the car, who cares what you spend on it? Anyone modifying any car shouldn't expect to get a dime back for what they spend on mods. And in some cases, the mods take that particular car somewhere that a stock "next price bracket" couldn't or wouldn't go. See built track cars or off-roaders for good examples. I feel like the worst offenders are the unevenly-modded cars combined with the un-modded drivers. I hear so, so many people say "oh yeah I'll come to the track just as soon as I........" and at that point, I tend to stop listening as intently. These are the people who think that without that $2500 built diff or $500 tune, their car will just not do well at an HPDE. Just come out and learn something, jeez. Given that we've had a consistent HPDE student in a stick-shift 1999 Camry LE, any other arguments about "the car isn't ready" are invalid. And the same people who will bitch about the $350 weekend price are the ones who don't bat an eye at the $500 tune. I don't understand that type of prioritization but to each their own. Yes, there are people who have no huge interest in HPDEs, but those people also strike me as more sensibly minded about their car mods and aren't driving like dickholes on the street. It all tends to correlate. I think I've been guilty of "modding without purpose" in the past and now I'm more focused on the car's intent. Hence why I'm trying to downsize the wheel/tire combo on the E46 and put Bilstein Touring shocks on it. Yes, it can be quick and a bit loud as a daily, but I don't want it to be too loud or too stiff because its main job is to get me to work, and its secondary job is to get me around on road trips. My truck has an intake, but an exhaust might be a bit much when I'm sitting at 3500 rpm pulling my car up hills on Route 7. And knobbier all-terrain tires would sacrifice highway ride quality (99% of my driving) for snow and off-road ability (that I'd use almost never). That said, I'm pretty secure in my own automotive choices and interests, I'm happy to inform and educate others if they want to know more about things I do - out of curiosity or an interest in doing something similar themselves - and I also don't reeeeeally care if someone else's interests don't align with mine. I may think you're nuts for commuting in a straight-piped Corvette with Recaros, six-points, no AC and no radio, but hey, you do you. If you're happy with it, then so much the better. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - CaptainHenreh - 11-29-2016 Side note: This almost exact same shit happens anywhere there's a modding community. RC cars, PC's, Guns, Minifigs. The same points could apply. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - SlimKlim - 11-29-2016 I just skimmed the article earlier, didn't realize it was controversial until I went back to the reddit post and scrolled through the comments. I assume this was the post you were talking about? Quote:I said this last thread and I'm going to say it again, Matt isn't the smartest guy when it comes to car tuning. He isn't wrong that you can ruin a car by doing certain things to it, but where he is wrong is that people ruin cars by not understanding what they do to it. Someone whos buying or tuning a mustang to do 700hp and nothing else isn't making it that way to handle well in the canyons or to win autox events. They do it because they want a highway monster machine, ie, a car that goes fast in a straight line. And I know that Matt knows this and he's written this article just get people like me riled up, he's writing this article just to get clicks. Sounds like the classic butthurt "YOU DONT KNOW ME" complaint because he either hasn't ever built a car, but dreams of building one in a way Matt wouldn't approve of. OR, he has built some cars, made the mistakes Matt talks about, and is defensive about it. Personally all of the points in Matt's article make good clean sense to me. This dude's butthurt is really out of left field. He accuses Matt of turning and burning all his cars, but he's owned a C5 vette since new. He defends stance drivers by saying "yeah ok but they actually drive their cars." Yeah, ok, but that doesn't make them good to drive. He says his experience with his Mustang is a one-off deal, but any of us know that doing a serious build like that is going to result in unexpected problems 99% of the time. Modding up into the next price bracket, I didn't think he was saying NOT to do it, just to think your build through BEFORE you throw $50k at a Mustang or whatever the fuck, to make sure that's what you really want vs. a car you could just buy for a Mustang+$50k. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - JPolen01 - 11-29-2016 Jake Wrote:I may think you're nuts for commuting in a straight-piped Corvette with Recaros, six-points, no AC and no radio, but hey, you do you. If you're happy with it, then so much the better.Woah woah. Don't be so mean to Dj. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Jake - 11-29-2016 JPolen01 Wrote:Jake Wrote:I may think you're nuts for commuting in a straight-piped Corvette with Recaros, six-points, no AC and no radio, but hey, you do you. If you're happy with it, then so much the better.Woah woah. Don't be so mean to Dj. His DD was just the most bonkers example that came to mind :lol: I think it's a lovely car, just couldn't slog it through NoVA traffic every day. Clearly my prissy torqueless wonder of a BMW that requires the oil temperature be at a certain number before revving past 3k rpm is the more reasonable choice. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - D_Eclipse9916 - 11-29-2016 JPolen01 Wrote:Jake Wrote:I may think you're nuts for commuting in a straight-piped Corvette with Recaros, six-points, no AC and no radio, but hey, you do you. If you're happy with it, then so much the better.Woah woah. Don't be so mean to Dj. :lol: I only stopped DDing it because the clutch finally let go, so the SSR conversion is happening. Stock seats/radio/A/C going back in :| Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Apoc - 11-29-2016 This article is bullshit. It doesn't mention plastidip. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - G.Irish - 11-29-2016 SlimKlim Wrote:I just skimmed the article earlier, didn't realize it was controversial until I went back to the reddit post and scrolled through the comments. I assume this was the post you were talking about?LOL yes! :lol: I was reading through the comments like 'uh huh...ok...that's reasonable...uh, WOW'. That guy got his panties wadded so tight his legs died. Over the years I've run into a couple of people like that. Spending wayyy too much money on mods then getting offended when people offer reasonable arguments about why that money spent might not be in their best interests. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - rherold9 - 11-29-2016 Apoc Wrote:This article is bullshit.Plastic dip is a mod 8-) Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - ScottyB - 11-29-2016 i don't get the backlash. all his points make sense, although there's some obvious hyperbole to illustrate his perspective....of course there's some exceptions to the rules. he's driven a shit-ton of cars on TheSmokingTire, so i feel like he's coming from a pretty informed place with a lot of this. seems to me the butthurt responses are just the kneejerk response of people getting salty that someone thinks they don't know what they're doing just because they purposefully don't modify all the systems of the car to match the capabilities of the speed. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - rherold9 - 11-29-2016 why is this even a big deal? Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Mike - 11-29-2016 rherold9 Wrote:why is this even a big deal? because people on reddit try to make everything into a big deal. Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Apoc - 11-29-2016 did you hear what the ceo did?????? Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Mike - 11-29-2016 Apoc Wrote:did you hear what the ceo did?????? ohhh mahhhhh gerrrrrrdddddddd it almost made major news outlets! the humanity! an administrator can edit a message board!?
Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - Senor_Taylor - 11-29-2016 Mike Wrote:But Reddit is the most important thing on the internet. It IS the internet. It's a public space where I should be able to do whatever I want and you can't take that from me! Who cares if it's a business!Apoc Wrote:did you hear what the ceo did?????? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Re: Article: 5 Ways People Ruin their Cars - *insertusernamehere* - 11-30-2016 Jake Wrote:. My favorite part is when you tell them the race classes are running stock motors in miatas and civics and you watch them choke on air trying to convince you their Subaru WRX isn't track fast yet. |