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Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - WRXtranceformed - 06-24-2016
Maengelito Wrote:yeah, I think that's more of an issue with DI engines since you don't have the fuel coming in through the intake valves but its certainly not only DI engines. I think if you do some basic maintenance, change your oil regularly, and floor it every once in awhile, you probably don't have to worry about deposits like that. Regardless, I doubt this is Taylor's issue on his truck or his Miata.Agreed those motors are too old. Apparently there is nothing that can be done about this (drive style, maintenance, etc.) to avoid coking other than physically prevent the vapors from entering the intake manifold. Not even all catch cans are good enough, there are only a handful that operate at an efficiency level high enough to make a difference.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 06-24-2016
I just did seafoam because I had some lying around. The hesitations started slowly over the last two days. Got really bad today and got worse with everything I tried. The problem is non existent if I rev it with the actual throttle body. Has to be electronic
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Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - ViPER1313 - 06-24-2016
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Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Scott - 06-24-2016
Maengelito Wrote:What's with the seafoaming of everything? Its not some miracle potion.
Senor_Taylor Wrote:I just did seafoam because I had some lying around. The hesitations started slowly over the last two days. Got really bad today and got worse with everything I tried. The problem is non existent if I rev it with the actual throttle body. Has to be electronic
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Quit seafoming things, I'm not sure who told you it was a good idea to use, but stop.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 07-03-2016
Replaced the plugs. Not sure if these are the factory plugs as usually tacomas came with 3 NGK and 3 Denso plugs and these are all Denso, but they definitely had seen better days. A lot had backed out and had oil from the PCV and a little mud around the wells messing up the seal under the coil packs. On a quick test drive, it shifts way smoother than it ever has and revs very well. It's kind of weird how if your car's condition slowly degrades, you don't notice until it gets really bad really quick. Didn't replace the plug wires as no parts stores carry them and they're pretty pricey and I'm tied up fixing two cars atm.
Blows my mind how the plugs just died suddenly. I guess that B12 chem tool really socked it to them.
What's a gap? Actually, neither of these gaps are right, but you get the point.
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Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 07-05-2016
Misfires came back on the way home today. Put new wires on it and the problem persisted. Finally got my hands on a scan tool and got a Misfire on #3. Moved the coil over to #1 and the misfire followed it. There was one ignition coil in Lynchburg on the other side of town. Swooped over and got it and problem is once again solved. I think a leaky PCV caused it's death.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 07-14-2016
In a fun series of events, I believe the misfire and running rich has caused the Heated O2 sensor to fail, which is a $200 part. I'm throwing a P0031 code right now but the truck runs fine.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 07-21-2016
So I took it somewhere to get the O2 sensor replaced because the underside of my truck is 100% rust and there was no way I wouldn't destroy those bolts even with the week of PB blaster I put on it. Got a quote for one hour of labor to do it, and the part only cost $220 at the Toyota dealership and it was in stock. Somehow the shop managed to pay almost $100 more for the part, so that screwed me. I got them to run me a new tail pipe with a down turn after my axle since my other one broke off while I was wheeling. Not a great looking set up, but it'll work. Definitely not going to get more exhaust work done there, but it only took them like 4 hours to get my truck, the part, and get it back to me.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - JPolen01 - 07-21-2016
Why didn't you buy the sensor and bring it with you? They are in business to make money and are always going to mark up the parts.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 07-21-2016
JPolen01 Wrote:Why didn't you buy the sensor and bring it with you? They are in business to make money and are always going to mark up the parts.
Unlike other O2 sensor codes, when the Heated O2 sensor fails, the code it throws could also mean the relay, heater circuit, or wiring is bad. It's a toss up to what it is until you pull the sensor and test it. I didn't want to buy it and not need it, and when I told them this, they said they only paid "list price" so it was my fault for assuming their list price was the same with Napa as it was with the dealership.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - *insertusernamehere* - 07-21-2016
Bummer. Should have made them pull it, test it and tell you. Either way, if Napa is anything like advance, commercial accounts get a massive discount on parts like that. I doubt they paid $300 for an O2 sensor. And if they did, then damn son, find a new shop lol
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 07-21-2016
Other shops quoted me $100 more right off the bat.
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Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 10-02-2016
Not much to report here. I sold the lift springs I have because I'd rather have the money and I don't see myself putting them on before I graduate. Still have 15 inch wheel, extended brake line for the rear, and a diff drop sitting in the closet for whenever I get a chance and funds to put them on.
The MM offroad trip was great! Pretty stressful to get planned with everything else going on, but definitely worth it! The Taco made the trails honestly quite boring to traverse since all of the "hard" stuff is off limits nowadays, but it's always nice to just get back out on the dirt. I forget how far this thing has come when I watch stock vehicles struggle to get over what isn't a second thought to me. It shows in the video below. That Explorer sure was a trooper
As is tradition, I came back with something broken and making terrible noises. One day working in the pouring rain and a little time today and I figured out it was the idler pulley. $30 and we're back in action. Hopefully this Advance Auto pulley holds up to the abuse that my factory one did. It was completely full of mud and I couldn't even spin it by hand until I cleaned it out. I think I'll avoid mud for a while.[youtube]uBbx01J7Hrw[/youtube]
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 05-24-2017
So, the ole Taco crossed over 160k before Hyperfest and she's approaching 5 years of ownership. It's holding up fairly well, but it's also starting to really show its age. Worst of all, the shocks I used to replace my previous shocks that were too short, are now actually too long and bottom out with weight in the rear and it also has a clunk on hard turns at slow speed (which may just be something in the toolbox). It is a great little truck to haul the bike around and shuttle people in the bed, but the terrible ride, gas mileage, and lack of any power or creature comforts has made me come to the conclusion that it's time to upgrade.
My new home in Sterling won't really allow me to get a third vehicle, so towing a race car isn't on the agenda unless I sell the Miata and get something else so my first thought was to buy a 4th gen V8 4Runner exactly like Cabell's. Some part of me deep down knows that I'd really regret not buying a pickup though, so my sights are also set on possibly a mid 2000s GM gas or diesel, or possibly a Coyote F150. I'd rather not pick up much of a loan more than a few thousand dollars, so my budget looks to be under 20k once I sell the Tacoma. The smart money is on the 4runner because it'd be a perfect commuter/offroad/road trip/ small tow vehicle, but the lack of bed may get me.
To preface this discussion, I won't be doing any of this for a few months after I have my expenses from moving paid and some money saved up. Thoughts?
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - WRXtranceformed - 05-24-2017
Senor_Taylor Wrote:So, the ole Taco crossed over 160k before Hyperfest and she's approaching 5 years of ownership. It's holding up fairly well, but it's also starting to really show its age. Worst of all, the shocks I used to replace my previous shocks that were too short, are now actually too long and bottom out with weight in the rear and it also has a clunk on hard turns at slow speed (which may just be something in the toolbox). It is a great little truck to haul the bike around and shuttle people in the bed, but the terrible ride, gas mileage, and lack of any power or creature comforts has made me come to the conclusion that it's time to upgrade.I think if financially you are stabilized from the move and new job income, it wouldn't be a bad call to finally upgrade the ole college beater truck. You'll appreciate something nicer for your commute. 4Runner would not be a bad call but a crew cab truck with a V8 is my favorite option. It gives you all of the passenger space that an SUV would give you with the benefit of a bed to throw stuff in and *usually* better tow capacity. I'm not sure what you can find in that price range but it shouldn't be too difficult
My new home in Sterling won't really allow me to get a third vehicle, so towing a race car isn't on the agenda unless I sell the Miata and get something else so my first thought was to buy a 4th gen V8 4Runner exactly like Cabell's. Some part of me deep down knows that I'd really regret not buying a pickup though, so my sights are also set on possibly a mid 2000s GM gas or diesel, or possibly a Coyote F150. I'd rather not pick up much of a loan more than a few thousand dollars, so my budget looks to be under 20k once I sell the Tacoma. The smart money is on the 4runner because it'd be a perfect commuter/offroad/road trip/ small tow vehicle, but the lack of bed may get me.
To preface this discussion, I won't be doing any of this for a few months after I have my expenses from moving paid and some money saved up. Thoughts?
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Jake - 05-24-2017
You should budget for new brake lines on any GMT800 GM truck, unless they have already been replaced. They allegedly like to go through fuel pumps every 80-100k, although I never had that issue with mine. Check for typical leaks and such. The non-HD trucks/SUVs have a weaker transmission that should get you to about 150k but may need a rebuild after that. The 2500 gas/diesel pickups and any 2500 Suburbans all got the stronger trans.
I've heard the pre-Coyote F150s are kind of dogs for towing (with the old 4.6 or 5.4 mod motors) which is why I avoided one when I got the Yukon. The Coyote is considered very reliable in the early years of implementation (2011 was first year for that and the 3.5L EcoBoost) whereas the first few years of 3.5EB have some flaws that are commonly-addressed, but annoying regardless. Seems like 2013+ is good for that engine. The same 6R80 transmission is used for either and has been very reliable according to the trans shop I talked to, and common internet lore.
If you think you'll keep the Miata (or a Miata) as a track car, the 4Runner would tow it very well and be far more manageable to daily drive. My F150 is on the cusp of being annoyingly large for a DD, although I used it as one when I was between 'verts. I think you'll have a hard time getting a nice 5.0 F150 for under $20k. A nice GMT800 pickup + a few grand for immediate repairs would not be the worst idea. They are smaller (sized like a brand new Canyon/Colorado) and sit lower, so easier to DD.
I liked my Yukon for the sake of hauling people and having a big locked box, but the pickup has proven SO nice with the open bed - not caring about tossing dirty car parts on the carpet is a plus.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - SlimKlim - 05-24-2017
This sounds like a perfect example of "If it ain't broke don't fix it" (just buy another one)
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Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Jake - 05-24-2017
The only thing about another Tacoma is that they didn't get the V8, whereas the 4Runner did. Something tells me towing with the V8 would be more pleasant.
Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - Senor_Taylor - 05-24-2017
If the Taco came with a V8, I'd be all over it. I love Tacoma for how well made they are. In 5 years of ownership and 40,000 miles of this, I've replace ZERO things that I did not break myself (rear leaf springs while off-roading, idler pulley while offroading, ignition coil full of oil and mud, transmission pan I crossthreaded).
Looking at GM trucks, my dream is a crew cab 2500.
Actually, like this exactly. A new head unit with bluetooth and I'd be a happy camper.
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Re: Project DD moonlighting as trail rig - SlimKlim - 05-24-2017
You really really really don't want to DD a 3/4 ton to Tysons & back.