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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - G.Irish - 10-29-2020
(10-29-2020, 07:22 PM)BLINGMW Wrote:From the state election laws I've looked at, that's how it works. Some states require the ballots to arrive on election day, some allow them to be counted as long as they were postmarked by election day, and arrive before a deadline after election day. Cali I think is 10 days, some states are like 3 days.(10-29-2020, 07:03 PM)Ken Wrote: If it's postmarked in time, it should be counted. This shouldn't even be a question. Works for taxes.
There would still have to be some actual deadline on that, we cannot wait around 'till smarch in case some lost letter shows up.
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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - .RJ - 10-29-2020
states rights....
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 10-30-2020
Full state by state analysis: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-results-timing/
In WA, ballots are counted until 11/23... but it rarely matters.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - CaptainHenreh - 10-30-2020
(10-29-2020, 07:22 PM)BLINGMW Wrote:(10-29-2020, 07:03 PM)Ken Wrote: If it's postmarked in time, it should be counted. This shouldn't even be a question. Works for taxes.
There would still have to be some actual deadline on that, we cannot wait around 'till smarch in case some lost letter shows up.
Look at Mr. Voter Suppression over here...
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - davej - 10-30-2020
(10-29-2020, 07:22 PM)BLINGMW Wrote:(10-29-2020, 07:03 PM)Ken Wrote: If it's postmarked in time, it should be counted. This shouldn't even be a question. Works for taxes.
There would still have to be some actual deadline on that, we cannot wait around 'till smarch in case some lost letter shows up.
stupid smarch weather.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Tyler.M - 10-30-2020
(10-30-2020, 04:16 PM)davej Wrote:(10-29-2020, 07:22 PM)BLINGMW Wrote:(10-29-2020, 07:03 PM)Ken Wrote: If it's postmarked in time, it should be counted. This shouldn't even be a question. Works for taxes.
There would still have to be some actual deadline on that, we cannot wait around 'till smarch in case some lost letter shows up.
stupid smarch weather.
Smarch is my favorite month next to smebruary
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Ken - 10-31-2020
(10-29-2020, 07:22 PM)BLINGMW Wrote:(10-29-2020, 07:03 PM)Ken Wrote: If it's postmarked in time, it should be counted. This shouldn't even be a question. Works for taxes.
There would still have to be some actual deadline on that, we cannot wait around 'till smarch in case some lost letter shows up.
Fair - but the day of the election is definitively not the answer. Somewhere in the 3-5 day range seems reasonable.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - .RJ - 10-31-2020
Its almost as if there are state laws for this (note: the constitution and the fed have very little to say about voting - leaving it up to the states)
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Tyler.M - 11-01-2020
(10-31-2020, 07:43 PM).RJ Wrote: Its almost as if there are state laws for this (note: the constitution and the fed have very little to say about voting - leaving it up to the states)
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020
Owf, so New York has until December 7 to meet and certify the election.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - .RJ - 11-02-2020
Everyone go vote tomorrow. No excuses.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 11-02-2020
(11-02-2020, 10:40 AM).RJ Wrote: Everyone go vote tomorrow. No excuses.
Oh, yeah... well my excuse is I already voted.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Ken - 11-02-2020
(11-02-2020, 12:07 PM)Apoc Wrote:(11-02-2020, 10:40 AM).RJ Wrote: Everyone go vote tomorrow. No excuses.
Oh, yeah... well my excuse is I already voted.
Same, my ballot was submitted weeks ago and per election site is confirmed received.
Anyone who hasn't done so, please go vote.
Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Senor_Taylor - 11-03-2020
Go Joe Go!
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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Sijray21 - 11-03-2020
we'll see what happens.
prediction: Regardless of the popular or electoral college results trump will not concede, because of who he is; i simply cannot see him saying that he lost and that he accepts the results. Litigation will ensue, because that is what trump does. Upheaval ensues and the country is further divided.
Btw - if anyone hasn't seen the Social Dilemma on Netflix i recommend watching it. Most of us i feel are already keen on the idea of how social media affects us all, but there were a few points i didn't think of regarding the polarization of our citizens.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Jake - 11-03-2020
I'm hoping for the best and expecting the worst. We'll see. If nothing else, I'm glad to see so much turnout this year no matter who supports who.
Also keeping an eye on the various Senate seats that are up for grabs. Would be awesome if the Dems could reclaim the Senate majority and effectively make McConnell useless, since that's all he's been for a while now anyway.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - ScottyB - 11-03-2020
(11-03-2020, 11:31 AM)Jake Wrote: Also keeping an eye on the various Senate seats that are up for grabs.
this...if Trumpster Fire wins but D gets the senate, at least its a check on his general inclination to make stupid decisions along with a room full of enablers.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - DavidM - 11-03-2020
(11-03-2020, 03:15 PM)ScottyB Wrote:(11-03-2020, 11:31 AM)Jake Wrote: Also keeping an eye on the various Senate seats that are up for grabs.
this...if Trumpster Fire wins but D gets the senate, at least its a check on his general inclination to make stupid decisions along with a room full of enablers.
This seems like...the least likely outcome right? In a world where the polls are wrong enough for Trump to win there is almost no chance Dems get the pickups they need, especially because in that case they'd need 51 seats - so AZ, CO, and three of NC, GA, ME, and IA on a ballot where Trump carried all of those except ME? Not impossible I guess, but a lot less likely than a Dem route our a close election that keeps the Senate Red.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 11-03-2020
538 is gives Trump a 10% chance of winning and R a 25% chance of retaining control of the Senate, so yes.
Based on their forecasts, the most likely scenario is a D sweep... but, also, the weatherman gets shit wrong all the time too sooooo YMMV.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - DavidM - 11-03-2020
(11-03-2020, 04:23 PM)Apoc Wrote: 538 is gives Trump a 10% chance of winning and R a 25% chance of retaining control of the Senate, so yes.
Based on their forecasts, the most likely scenario is a D sweep... but, also, the weatherman gets shit wrong all the time too sooooo YMMV.
Right. But those two results are highly correlated yea? So there's probably higher than a 2.5% chance that the R's win both (because R's win the Senate in way more than 25% of those Trump wins), and lower than a 7.5% of the Trump + D Senate scenario.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 11-03-2020
Yeah, they are not independent variables. I saw somewhere the % chance D vs R in POTUS, House, and Senate but I can't find it.