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- KPWSerpiente - 04-05-2005
Quote:that you are NOT. hahaha speak only for the few people on here you know of..i have done more tuning.. more dynoing..more ecu modding.. more wide band o2 hookups that you times a million hahahaha
know who you are talking about or to before making a retarted statement like that
seriously.. hahaha (shaking my head in shame)
I acknowledge my mistake. The 'hahaha' really adds strenth to the 'times a million' figure you put forth.
Quote:actually, that totally defies your new stance. That is precisely stating that you being the better driver at a drag strip will result in you having the lower time regardless of the vehicle driven. Therefore, it still comes down to the driver, not the car. A slow-ass car driven well can always beat a poorly driven fast car.
Thanks Dave. Can't let anything leak past you!
Quote:you seriously are one cocky mofo. get off you highseat already????
A very high horse. Of course...I have every timeslip I've ever received so if you want I can tell you exactly how much more experience I have in this particularly area should you need the hard numbers.
I'm done with this thread. I know everyone else will get a few more comments in but I'll be letting them go. And another welcome to the new guy. I hope you learn to love Madison.
-T
- Myuki - 04-05-2005
KPWSerpiente Wrote:....And another welcome to the new guy. I hope you learn to love Madison.yea, through all of this, this is what it boils down to, just a welcoming through hijacking your thread. It happens. And you'll learn to love it.
-T
- BLAIR - 04-05-2005
KPWSerpiente Wrote:Quote:that you are NOT. hahaha speak only for the few people on here you know of..i have done more tuning.. more dynoing..more ecu modding.. more wide band o2 hookups that you times a million hahahaha
know who you are talking about or to before making a retarted statement like that
seriously.. hahaha (shaking my head in shame)
I acknowledge my mistake. The 'hahaha' really adds strenth to the 'times a million' figure you put forth.
Quote:you seriously are one cocky mofo. get off you highseat already????
A very high horse. Of course...I have every timeslip I've ever received so if you want I can tell you exactly how much more experience I have in this particularly area should you need the hard numbers.
-T
ahhhhhh(continues to shake head even harder)
- Sijray21 - 04-05-2005
Dave Wrote:KPWSerpiente Wrote:We can take turns running my car, or yours. Point being that I expect you to be consistantly slower because of your limited drag experience.actually, that totally defies your new stance. That is precisely stating that you being the better driver at a drag strip will result in you having the lower time regardless of the vehicle driven. Therefore, it still comes down to the driver, not the car. A slow-ass car driven well can always beat a poorly driven fast car.
-T
gotta admit travis...you just contradicted your own stance, lol
i wish i could find the thread that stated, "you guys can teach me how to drive" by travis :wink:
- Rex4life - 04-05-2005
quote="KPWSerpiente"]And rotaries blow up. That is still the heart of my platform.[/quote]
why would anyone say something that misinformed. unless i am incorrect and KPWSerpiente is a rotary guru. i've had a rx-7 almost the entire time i could drive, so i will admit i don't know the in's and out's of a piston engine. i used to drive a wrangler but i cared more about what it could run over/through rather than the engine. if you didn't know, piston engines can and do blow up too with the right driver. given the statement that rotaries blow up quicker than piston engines.....lets think about it. maybe they blow up sooner because the drivers have only had piston engines and don't know how to properly maintain a rotary, which is higher maintenence? b00sting a rotary is a different story. but if you have the right person set your engine up and you take care of it, a rotary can and will last a long time, it just takes a watchful eye and a little TLC.
- rotorsownyou7 - 04-05-2005
Dave Wrote:rotorsownyou7 Wrote:That ECU is not a waste of money, how did you come up with that?because I'm the type of person that doesn't buy something unless it is necessary.
Somebody else asked earlier what kind of mods you are sporting. I'm not going to waste my time going over to the RX7 forum cuz I don't have enough time of my own, so share and perhaps I'll retract my statement of "needing" that ECU to support those mods.
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- .RJ - 04-05-2005
KPWSerpiente Wrote:Now because I remain the only person on this thread who has actually used any kind of data logging sotware, any kind of wideband oxygen sensor, and made any kind of changes to both the fuel and timing maps stored in an ecu and all of this while on a dyno
:roll:
Travis, get off your fucking high horse. If you have something to contribute here, then please by all means educate us - but stop being a prick.
- Chris - 04-05-2005
is this shit done yet... because man it gets annoying.
- Ryan T - 04-05-2005
Chris Wrote:is this shit done yet... because man it gets annoying.
I agree.
- Mike - 04-05-2005
KPWSerpiente Wrote:Quote:i wouldn't exactly call that a new stance.
Actually Mike...I invited you out to the dragstrip in the past and we can still go anytime you want. We can take turns running my car, or yours. Point being that I expect you to be consistantly slower because of your limited drag experience.
What does that have to do with anything I said? SMOKE WEED EVERY DAY!
- Feersty - 04-05-2005
KPWSerpiente Wrote:rotorsownyou7 Wrote:Rotaries blow up? So piston motors don't? Good find.
Come on new guy. You're going to have to hit harder than that.
example=Chad Dalton's Mustang GT
- Evan - 04-05-2005
KPWSerpiente Wrote:Thanks for the lecture on 9th grade science Evan.Actually I agree with you more than disagree. I too think real-world datalogging (and tuning) can be more useful and productive than tuning on a dyno when done well, but a dyno still has an important role in tuning a car, and ultimately you need both. Maybe you were exagerrating to make a point, but saying a dyno is not a good tuning tool is just crazy-talk.
Now because I remain the only person on this thread who has actually used any kind of data logging sotware, any kind of wideband oxygen sensor, and made any kind of changes to both the fuel and timing maps stored in an ecu and all of this while on a dyno I'll just go ahead and continue to think my way.
ps- my first time ever at a drag race start, I ran a .54x reaction time. Probably beginners luck, but not too shabbay!
- KPWSerpiente - 04-05-2005
Quote:ps- my first time ever at a drag race start, I ran a .54x reaction time. Probably beginners luck, but not too shabbay!
This actually interests me. Half a second is not bad for your first time...I see way to many first timers sleep a lot longer than that at the light. But anything slower than .099 makes me feel like I hit a bad light. For instance...my last bracket run I cut an .051 to the guys .049. He went on to win by .008 of a second. This is a time when cutting a sweeter light would have put in into the next round as opposed to back into the stands.
I really would love to do a drag day....but my car has not been running in tip top shape for the last 6 months and I'm afraid I still won't have all the small issues with it worked out until later in the season.
-T
- Evan - 04-05-2005
hrm, I misspoke, not reaction time, but I cant remember the term.
.500 was a perfect "hole shot" , anything under .500 was a redlight. I got a .54something my first try, and I was doing .600s for most of the day, with one redlight
- BLAIR - 04-05-2005
Evan Wrote:hrm, I misspoke, not reaction time, but I cant remember the term.
.500 was a perfect "hole shot" , anything under .500 was a redlight. I got a .54something my first try, and I was doing .600s for most of the day, with one redlight
use to watch drag racing back when..i agree i thought a .5 was perfect too???
- Dave - 04-05-2005
i'd love to do a drag day. Travis, what are the times that there are open events around here?
- KPWSerpiente - 04-05-2005
Quote:hrm, I misspoke, not reaction time, but I cant remember the term.
.500 was a perfect "hole shot" , anything under .500 was a redlight. I got a .54something my first try, and I was doing .600s for most of the day, with one redlight
My fault Evan. You are entirely correct. MIR switched their setup so that a .000 was perfect to make it less confusing.
A .54x is pretty amazing on a .500 second tree.
Quote:i'd love to do a drag day. Travis, what are the times that there are open events around here?
I assume the 1/8 mile tracks south of the hburg hold a friday night event that is open to all.
-T
- Krush - 04-05-2005
Kinda late in the discussion, but for a dyno to be truly useful for tuning it has to be a loading dyno (edy current, water brake, etc) and not an inertial dyno (mustangs??? I dunno).
Inertial can give u numbers, but it can't provide a constant load to help you turn anything but WOT. It calculates HP/TQ by seeing how quickly the motor can spin up a known fixed rotating mass.
The loading dyno basically provides a varying resistance by either using a brake or having the wheels turn some type of generator and then apply a resistive load. This has the advantage of being able to provide a constant load on the car. The former does not.
The latter allows for datalogging and tuning across all rpm/throttle combinations, much like driving down the road.
- rotorsownyou7 - 04-05-2005
Damn, you guys always fight like this?
- JohnC - 04-05-2005
rotorsownyou7 Wrote:Damn, you guys always fight like this?
No. It usually turns out much less civilized.