PDenbigh Wrote:Yah - I totally just dropped a Nissan Leaf in this thread.

WRXtranceformed Wrote:Do people RallyX trucks? A truck would give you the best of all worlds, and it's so jawja

JustinG Wrote:

WRXtranceformed Wrote:Do people RallyX trucks? A truck would give you the best of all worlds, and it's so jawja

Sooooo, Raptor?

*insertusernamehere* Wrote:big and heavy

WRXtranceformed Wrote:Saw spy shots of the rumored Ranger Raptor, I will be giving that a hardpark stancebro look if/when it drops.

A Raptor rally crossing would be epic but is wayyyy outside of the budget range, and no manual tranny. There are tons of options for trucks though with MTs and I think they are usually cheaper because most people don't want MTs in their trucks. I would guess that a rally-x prepped truck would be super freaking fun to drive though...some of my favorite driving memories were taking my first truck (early 90s Yota pickup with added leaf springs) through a dirt bike course at full speed. The woops were brutal!! And IMO there is no better all purpose vehicle than a truck

ScottyB Wrote:one thing that sucks about living down here - trucks don't really depreciate much. i think in my area its literally 3 trucks for every 1 or 2 cars. our local ford dealer, if you check out the current inventory, has almost 60% F150s and then the rest is Ford's other 8 or 9 vehicles.

i'd love a raptor and would bend my "no autos" rule to own one, but if i had one i'd want to hoon it in the dirt all the time, not just sometimes. someday when i get some property in the mountains its going to happen.

VW dealers are just being all-around shitbirds. all of them. all the same story, "oh our discount prices are unbeatable, we need these gone, you won't believe it, we'll work with you" and then by the time you talk OTD price they start balking and dump another $2500 worth of fees and dealer markups on you which defeats the entire premise of buying the car for me. if they were willing to play the 0% AND discounted list price game, like they advertised, then i'd be all over these things. but its a bait and switch tactic to try to rope suckers like me to getting on the phone and getting into the showrooms so i'll fall in love with a car and overpay for it. not happening.

its amazing how much these dealers DON'T want to talk numbers over email. they want to call, sweet talk you, beg you to get into a showroom. come drive it, you'll love it! they want you in their building where they can control the circus.

at this point i'm pretty much giving up on it. i have a local dealer that has some cars on the lot, is much lower pressure, and was willing to price match but they don't actually have what i want color-wise. i also get the sense the sales team likes using the "good cop bad cop" tactic with the GM, the way they've been talking to me "yeah i want to make something work, we'll just have to see what the manager says, i can't call the shots". yeah OK, call me when you're out of parking spots for those shiny 2018's....

Apoc Wrote:Either it's a regional thing or I got lucky with the two dealers I worked with. I never had to speak on the phone once and I negotiated price via email.

WRXtranceformed Wrote:I have had several successful remote negotiations but it takes a lot of effort to find dealers in the US with sales reps / managers that are good enough to handle the process.

Apoc Wrote:I never had to speak on the phone once and I negotiated price via email.