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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Ken - 03-05-2020
(03-04-2020, 09:08 AM)Kaan Wrote:(02-28-2020, 11:38 AM)Apoc Wrote: As someone who is really tired of two parties, I welcome a fracture. I was already under the belief Trump was gonna win anyway, so this doesn't actually hurt that much.Probably an idealist scenario, but I'm going with it!
+11tybilltion
My biggest concern is, I've heard more than one medical professional that we hang out with say that Biden seems to be showing signs of dementia.
lol, sweet. America 2020 - which candidate is less obviously suffering from dementia?
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - CaptainHenreh - 03-05-2020
And then there were three.
Boy that was a ride, huh?
The only ones left standing are Biden, Bernie, and Momma Tulsi who is let's be real, just trying to soapbox about war and stuff. (Which isnt a bad thing if you ask me)
It's gonna be Biden for sure, and I'd love to speculate who his running mate will be.
Thoughts?
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - .RJ - 03-05-2020
Warren as VP.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 03-05-2020
^ that or Gabbard
I think Warren is the best pick and her signing on is a good way to push her agenda. If not now, down the line when she runs as an ex-VP.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - ScottyB - 03-05-2020
Warren will ride shotty...that's the pragmatic choice bc of her experience level and gives them a ticket for women voters to be excited about. i'd like to think Yang might get some kind of council position. i wouldn't be surprised if we see mayor PeteyB in a presidential race again someday.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - rherold9 - 03-05-2020
I think any of these Democratic candidates and Trump wins again. So.... who... cares?
I doubt Biden will pull enough Democratic voters out to vote for him and basically that just means Trump wins. Bernie at least seemed like he'd get people riled up enough to vote (still may not be enough). Most moderates and even radical Democrats will just look at Biden and be like who cares
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 03-05-2020
Disagree. I know A LOT of Dems who really, really didn't want to vote for Bernie and are glad the party is turning back towards the center. I'm guessing it's generational.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - D_Eclipse9916 - 03-05-2020
(03-05-2020, 01:51 PM)rherold9 Wrote: I think any of these Democratic candidates and Trump wins again. So.... who... cares?
I doubt Biden will pull enough Democratic voters out to vote for him and basically that just means Trump wins. Bernie at least seemed like he'd get people riled up enough to vote (still may not be enough). Most moderates and even radical Democrats will just look at Biden and be like who cares
Conversely, I wouldn't vote for Sanders; but will vote for a Biden/Warren combo. Not that my group seems to pull good voting numbers (middle age upper middle income). Wish Warren got more attention as I view her as an educated/intelligent/realistic Sanders with actual data and experience.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Tyler.M - 03-05-2020
Biden/Warren v Trump/Bloomberg
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - rherold9 - 03-05-2020
Okay, guess I'm wrong
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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Senor_Taylor - 03-05-2020
(03-05-2020, 01:14 PM).RJ Wrote: Warren as VP.
pls
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - G.Irish - 03-05-2020
(03-05-2020, 01:57 PM)D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:(03-05-2020, 01:51 PM)rherold9 Wrote: I think any of these Democratic candidates and Trump wins again. So.... who... cares?
I doubt Biden will pull enough Democratic voters out to vote for him and basically that just means Trump wins. Bernie at least seemed like he'd get people riled up enough to vote (still may not be enough). Most moderates and even radical Democrats will just look at Biden and be like who cares
Conversely, I wouldn't vote for Sanders; but will vote for a Biden/Warren combo. Not that my group seems to pull good voting numbers (middle age upper middle income). Wish Warren got more attention as I view her as an educated/intelligent/realistic Sanders with actual data and experience.
This. Warren was my first choice. Shame she didn't get more traction because she is smart, actually groks policy details, and got the CFPB going. Bernie and Bloomberg were my last choices.
Biden will probably win the nomination and will do fine with moderates and independents, assuming he doesn't torpedo his campaign with his mouth.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Sijray21 - 03-05-2020
Also on the Warren boat. With how much she tore up the other candidates i think her as the VP would be a stretch, but her lack of an endorsement was no surprise. I still feel like Biden is a poor choice, but throwing my hands up now.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - HAULN-SS - 03-05-2020
I think the thing that you all seem to like about Warren was her undoing. Yes she is a policy wonk, and probably knows her shit. So then people forced her to articulate on those plans and how much they might cost. That's about the time her campaign started to fail.. She may have answers nobody wanted to hear.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Sijray21 - 03-05-2020
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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Tyler.M - 03-05-2020
I liked Warren but I have 0 hope there is any mass appeal to any of the candidates left. Biden seems the most logical choice but I hate it because he's boring and very establishment. Bernie is the opposite but he's way too extreme and going to the polls as a moderate with two opponents that are both extreme is the worst option. I see it more as voting for a moderate v voting for an extremist. Moderates rallied around Biden in part because he's a known entity. If anyone would win out of the crappy field the Dems propped up, it's probably him.
(03-05-2020, 01:51 PM)rherold9 Wrote: I think any of these Democratic candidates and Trump wins again. So.... who... cares?
I doubt Biden will pull enough Democratic voters out to vote for him and basically that just means Trump wins. Bernie at least seemed like he'd get people riled up enough to vote (still may not be enough). Most moderates and even radical Democrats will just look at Biden and be like who cares
I don't disagree but I don't want to delve too much to nihilism when we still have a whole lot of time before November. Floating the "who cares?" ideology seems like self-fulfilling prophecy.
Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - rherold9 - 03-05-2020
I'm still going to get out and vote, but I'm saying who cares to the fact of our candidate choice is shit no matter on each side. Basically my complaint is the overall known issue of our current shit political system keeps producing shit so who even cares
We are literally living the South Park episode of having to have either a giant douche elected or turd sandwhich elected. And who wins in that episode?...
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RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - Apoc - 03-05-2020
(03-05-2020, 06:16 PM)rherold9 Wrote: And who wins in that episode?...
People who don't watch South Park? I give up.
RE: Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - G.Irish - 03-06-2020
(03-05-2020, 04:07 PM)HAULN-SS Wrote: I think the thing that you all seem to like about Warren was her undoing. Yes she is a policy wonk, and probably knows her shit. So then people forced her to articulate on those plans and how much they might cost. That's about the time her campaign started to fail.. She may have answers nobody wanted to hear.
I don't think that's it. Bernie has 5 trillion dollar plus programs in his platform and he never finished behind Warren in a primary or caucus. I think she ended up out in no-man's land where she was too far left for moderates but Bernie had already sucked up all of the oxygen at the far left. She's not a radical like Bernie and has actually accomplished things, but Bernie had a built in advantage from 2016.
It may also come down to her decision to turn away big donors. The moderates didn't do that, and she couldn't match Bernie's war chest.
Electile Dysfunction (Current students plz look!) - JPolen01 - 03-06-2020
Nobody has mentioned that Warren's personality is extremely unlikeable. Maybe it's just my impression. I can't stand to hear her talk especially during the debates. She always seems to yell and condescend. I think that turned a lot of people off.