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Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Sully - 11-16-2014
Ok, so this thread is much less dead than the other one. Comcast told us we needed to upgrade our modem to their wireless model. So it arrived today. Currently we use a wired modem to an old (but still pretty reliable) linksys wr54g. It is wep protected with a hidden ssid and already setup. I have two new linksys routers (whatever the flat black one is) in the box. One of which I used at school, one i got as an eBay mistake (usps's fault) the wr54g needs to be reset maybe once or twice a month but some of those may actually be the modem so it works pretty damn well for a 12 year old router.
Ok, so my question is, how should I set this new modem up to maximize effectiveness. I was thinking of being lazy and just hard wiring it to the router and running it like it's not wireless. I don't really have any major dead zones and my phone actually picks up the router signal at the end of the block so even if it is possible, not sure it's worth doing a double signal setup. I probably wouldn't bother moving the router so they will both be in the same room. I don't have ethernet run downstairs and I'm not going to so that's not an option either. Frankly, I don't think it's necessary. I don't even use a gaming console or anything so speed isn't that critical right now.
TL;DR
Got a new modem with wireless capability but also have a decent wireless router already setup. What's the best/easiest way to set the network up now?
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Apoc - 11-16-2014
1) Set up the Comcast model with identical settings.
2) Sell routers for beer money.
3) Buy beer
4) Drink beer
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Sully - 11-17-2014
You think the free comcast wireless modem will broadcast as well as my router? I feel like I'll lose the range i get with my router with antennas and what not.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Jake - 11-17-2014
Use some encryption better than WEP, goodness.
WPA2, bishes.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - RawrImAMonster - 11-17-2014
Jake Wrote:Use some encryption better than WEP, goodness.
WPA2, bishes.
WPA2 can be cracked now too. Takes longer than WEP, but you can do it in under 24 hours.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Ken - 11-17-2014
RawrImAMonster Wrote:Jake Wrote:Use some encryption better than WEP, goodness.
WPA2, bishes.
WPA2 can be cracked now too. Takes longer than WEP, but you can do it in under 24 hours.
Yeah, but one can be done in under 5 minutes and the other can't.
Set up your own radius server, like a boss (I have not done this, just saying though.)
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - CaptainHenreh - 11-17-2014
Ken Wrote:RawrImAMonster Wrote:Jake Wrote:Use some encryption better than WEP, goodness.
WPA2, bishes.
WPA2 can be cracked now too. Takes longer than WEP, but you can do it in under 24 hours.
Yeah, but one can be done in under 5 minutes and the other can't.
Set up your own radius server, like a boss (I have not done this, just saying though.)
This is actually pretty easy these days, but...diminishing returns.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Sully - 11-18-2014
What is a radius server? And was that a serious suggestion. I'm thinking of just setting up the modem and unplugging the router but I'm worried I'll have a shitty signal because free stuff from the cable company is probably pretty shitty compared to stuff purchased even if it is 12 years old
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - JPolen01 - 11-18-2014
Sully Wrote:but I'm worried I'll have a shitty signal because free stuff from the cable company is probably pretty shitty compared to stuff purchased even if it is 12 years oldI know nothing about this, but I find that hard to believe.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - RawrImAMonster - 11-18-2014
Sully Wrote:What is a radius server? And was that a serious suggestion. I'm thinking of just setting up the modem and unplugging the router but I'm worried I'll have a shitty signal because free stuff from the cable company is probably pretty shitty compared to stuff purchased even if it is 12 years old
The new modem/router from Comcast actually covers pretty well at my house. It actually works better than the old router I had.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - CaptainHenreh - 11-18-2014
Sully Wrote:What is a radius server? And was that a serious suggestion. I'm thinking of just setting up the modem and unplugging the router but I'm worried I'll have a shitty signal because free stuff from the cable company is probably pretty shitty compared to stuff purchased even if it is 12 years old
Ok, so your modem is what connects you to the internet. Your cable comes in and your modem (which isn't even the right word any more since the over the wire signal is digital and not analog so there's no need to MOdulate or DEModulate the signal but whatever) authenticates you to the servers back at Comcast through whatever protocol they use. (DOCSIS, I think?)
ANYWAY, your wireless router is what allows multiple client machines to share the pipe this modem is providing. Now, service providers have started combining these two devices, which is probably what you meant but it's pretty easy to try.
I've already gone too long but a RADIUS server is a device (could be a service running on a PC) that authenticates users, so you have a user list and they need a password before they can use your resource (your home network in this case).
You probably don't need this. WPA2 is fine for 99% of people. If you're super paranoid don't broadcast your SSID, use WPA2, and have a mac filter. You will officially be too much trouble for any wardriving shithead who is looking to grab some easy credit card numbers or whatever.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Jake - 11-19-2014
So Rex, is a RADIUS server basically like when you go to a hotel or Starbucks and connect to their WiFi, but then have to enter a password in your browser before you get access beyond that first "welcome" page?
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - CaptainHenreh - 11-19-2014
Jake Wrote:So Rex, is a RADIUS server basically like when you go to a hotel or Starbucks and connect to their WiFi, but then have to enter a password in your browser before you get access beyond that first "welcome" page?
You can do that with a RADIUS server but it's a total waste of effort. I can set that kind of "enter your room number" system up on my own router.
A radius server just serves as a gatekeeper/authenticator to some network resource. Have a looksee at this handy dandy diagram from msft:
![[Image: IC195130.gif]](http://i.technet.microsoft.com/dynimg/IC195130.gif)
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - CaptainHenreh - 11-19-2014
radius is pretty old too, hell it has "Dial up" in the acronym. I used to get free dial up from my ISP (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day) because I was nailing a girl who worked there and she just added me direct to the user accounts at the server level. Hell, if they were still in business I bet it'd work today.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Evan - 11-19-2014
just make your wpa2 preshared key (password) long. with special characters. That will make it much much harder to crack. something like #Rjl0v3smanp3nis1ntheb4ck0fh1sVAGw4g3n84535!
I have a high school 3 doors down and there are too many little script kiddie 1333t h4x0r wannabes so I keep mine about as locked down as I can.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - BLINGMW - 11-19-2014
Evan Wrote:#Rjl0v3smanp3nis1ntheb4ck0fh1sVAGw4g3n84535!What are the odds... well damn, thanks, now I have to change my password
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - RawrImAMonster - 11-19-2014
Evan Wrote:just make your wpa2 preshared key (password) long. with special characters. That will make it much much harder to crack. something like #Rjl0v3smanp3nis1ntheb4ck0fh1sVAGw4g3n84535!
I have a high school 3 doors down and there are too many little script kiddie 1333t h4x0r wannabes so I keep mine about as locked down as I can.
The method the security guy at work was telling me about was saying once it gets to a certain point you'll start getting the password in bigger chunks. He said you can get any WPA2 password in under 24 hours.
So don't trust that completely.
Hell, even RSA was cracked by listening to the sound the CPU made. Granted that was by one of the guys that made it.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - .RJ - 11-19-2014
I'm pretty confident no one is that interested in my internet traffic. Or, if they are they will just say "wtf this guy just looks at memes all day" and move on.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Evan - 11-19-2014
RawrImAMonster Wrote:The method the security guy at work was telling me about was saying once it gets to a certain point you'll start getting the password in bigger chunks. He said you can get any WPA2 password in under 24 hours.Im not too interested in networking and even less in network security, but when I read on it earlier this year, the 'hack' was that the handshake packets could be downloaded and the password could be brute forced offline, back home with somebody's big GPGPU machine. But its still brute force, so a long complex randomized password is still much harder (longer) to crack. (to the order of years, not hours)
So don't trust that completely.
perhaps he was talking about original WPA, which is much faster to crack.
oh, and turn off WPS, that shit is as bad as WEP.
Re: The official tablet (and other useless electronics) thre - Evan - 11-19-2014
.RJ Wrote:I'm pretty confident no one is that interested in my internet traffic. Or, if they are they will just say "wtf this guy just looks at memes all day" and move on.
not just your network traffic, all the files on your network, pc, NAS, anything. Tax returns, documents,that excel file you store all your passwords, pictures, ("wtf this guy looks at memes all day") , etc.