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Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Apoc - 10-20-2010
You have a jacket? You've driven the car for like 4 days.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2010
Maengelito Wrote:CaptainHenreh Wrote:I'm also shopping for some 16" snow tires, so if anyone sees a hellacious deal, please lmk.
+1 but I think my tires will need to be a bit higher profile than whats on a WRX
Maeng, I don't think you should be allowed to make any more posts in the Member's Projects Forum until we see a:
Project: Subaru Forester XT -- The Lesbowagen
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2010
Apoc Wrote:You have a jacket? You've driven the car for like 4 days.
My wife actually bought the jacket like, 3 years ago. :-p It's a warm LLBean fleece jacket with a 'baru logo on the left arm. :bootyshake:
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Apoc - 10-20-2010
Question: Why bother with snow tires? Seems like an all-season would be a more effective use of cash.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2010
Apoc Wrote:Question: Why bother with snow tires? Seems like an all-season would be a more effective use of cash.:dunno: Cuz fuck you, that's why.
A more effective use of cash would have been a Toyota Camry.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Apoc - 10-20-2010
It was a serious question. I'm looking to replace my tires and I never considered anything but all-season. Why winter and summer tires? Going to use the summer on track?
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - CaptainHenreh - 10-20-2010
Apoc Wrote:It was a serious question. I'm looking to replace my tires and I never considered anything but all-season. Why winter and summer tires? Going to use the summer on track?
Oh. Mostly it's because I've been taught that all seasons just means "Sucks at everything", and if I have the extra wheels cheap, what's the downside? I mean, tires last me a LONG time, so I could probably buy winter tires and summer tires and literally never buy tires again for this car.
I found that I really enjoyed the "mostly summer" tires on the Mazda, but they sucked big fat donkey dicks in the wintertime. so if I had the extra wheels (I do) then what's the downside to winter/summer tires?
Now sure, if you don't have spare wheels, it's not a great idea...
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - ViPER1313 - 10-20-2010
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Apoc Wrote:It was a serious question. I'm looking to replace my tires and I never considered anything but all-season. Why winter and summer tires? Going to use the summer on track?
Oh. Mostly it's because I've been taught that all seasons just means "Sucks at everything", and if I have the extra wheels cheap, what's the downside? I mean, tires last me a LONG time, so I could probably buy winter tires and summer tires and literally never buy tires again for this car.
I found that I really enjoyed the "mostly summer" tires on the Mazda, but they sucked big fat donkey dicks in the wintertime. so if I had the extra wheels (I do) then what's the downside to winter/summer tires?
Now sure, if you don't have spare wheels, it's not a great idea...
:dunno: I rocked winter tires on my SHO for a while, they were not much better than my Yoko A/S are on the Pontiac in the white stuff. For an AWD car, I think snow tires are a waste. The Talon has been out multiple times in the past few years on summer tires and gets around just fine...
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - ScottyB - 10-20-2010
CaptainHenreh Wrote:DMV Security Guard: Noticing my Subaru fleece jacket Oh, you're a Subaru guy, eh?
Me: Yeah.
DMV Security Guard: Ooooh, I'm an Audi guy. We don't get along.
Me: Yeah. Well, have fun with your Check Engine Lights.
DMV Security Guard: Dude. Harsh
ha! did a 700 mile round trip with pops this weekend in his '01 A4.
we get on 81, turn on cruise control...
bam! *CEL* turns on, cruise is dead
dad and i look at each other
"just keep driving dad, everything seems normal for this car"
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Apoc - 10-20-2010
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Oh. Mostly it's because I've been taught that all seasons just means "Sucks at everything", and if I have the extra wheels cheap, what's the downside? I mean, tires last me a LONG time, so I could probably buy winter tires and summer tires and literally never buy tires again for this car.
I think all-seasons have come a long way and are worth checking out, if you care (which I'm sure you don't.) If you aren't tracking the car, you can get really good tires for half the price of two sets and you don't have them sitting in your family room for weeks.
I had Pilot Sport AS on my M3 and PZero Nero AS on my S4... both worked well. I also had summer tires last winter on my Legacy and my car was mostly fine. I think with AS, it'll be like riding on unicorns and rainbows.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - JohnC - 10-20-2010
We've had some Kumho ASX's on our WRX for the last couple of years, and it's unstoppable in the winter.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Mike - 10-20-2010
+1 on snow tires being a waste.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - D_Eclipse9916 - 10-20-2010
+1 we dont live in the Northeast no matter how much we convince ourselves that we are Northern Virginia. If you were North of middle pennsylvania id say hell yes get snow tires.
I did summer performance tires on the gsx for years in the snow (those snow videos with MM with me in it? Yep thats on summer tires)
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - drivesideways46 - 10-21-2010
If you have the space for a dedicated set of winter wheels and tires, I don't see why you wouldn't invest in them. It's pretty easy to find good deals on craigslist or an enthusiast site for a set of snow tires on wheels.
A couple hundred bucks seems like pretty cheap insurance when it comes to improved grip and shorter stopping distances when it gets nasty out there.
I was able to score a set of daisy wheels for my old Miata with Nokian Hakkas for two hundred dollars, and it made snow driving infinitely easier. We also had a fun time last winter trying to plow out the first snow with a 4x4 on crappy all-season tires, and then we were able to conquer all when we upgraded to a set of pretty aggressive winter mud & snow tires.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - WRXtranceformed - 10-21-2010
Yeah I don't know what these guys are on about, unless AS technology has changed drastically in the last 3 or 4 years since I owned my Subarus. The stock WRX AS tires are absolutely miserable in the snow. My STi actually had snow tires on it for most of my ownership and they were awesome. If you're going to own a set of summer tires and then another set for the winter anyway, you may as well get some nice snow tires that will last forever.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Mike - 10-21-2010
the civic got around just fine in "the blizzard" last year on all-seasons. i'd have to imagine a wrx on anything is better than that... therefore, why spend money for something you don't need to?
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Goodspeed - 10-21-2010
(Damn me for bringing logic into this, but) theres a lot more to it than "AS's worked for me, why not you?"
Varables like vehicle weight, type of snow, was my area plowed more than yours, tire pressure, tire width, tread depths (were your AS's old or new?) etc, etc.
If you want the most badass winter setup, get the narrowest studded winter tires you can get.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - D_Eclipse9916 - 10-21-2010
^^^ I will make fun of anyone in NOVA with narrow studded winter tires. Really, the roads aare 100% clear within 3 days of even the worst storm weve EVER had.
If you dont drive like a jackass you dont need winter tires. Goodspeed, you were with me in a low to the ground Eclipsse GSX with EBAY summer tires. We were fine yet an suv pulled up next to us and yelled "get an SUV" and then proceded to spin out 300 feet in front of us.
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - HAULN-SS - 10-21-2010
lol, i like how you put "the blizzard" in quotes like it didnt snow 2 feet with 30mph winds
also..you're all dumb for not just getting something with 4WD to drive in the snow, if thats really what you want to be doing. My Jeep/Blazer/Truck were all infinitely better in snow than my legacy, no matter what tires either of them were on
Re: Project: 2002 WRX Wagon -- The Gravel Express - Apoc - 10-21-2010
WRXtranceformed Wrote:Yeah I don't know what these guys are on about, unless AS technology has changed drastically in the last 3 or 4 years since I owned my Subarus. The stock WRX AS tires are absolutely miserable in the snow.
There are a lot of crappy AS out there. Take a look at the tests in Tirerack and you can see how differently they perform. Like any tires, you still gotta shop for the right one. I'm annoyed because the one I want has been back-ordered since February.
HAULN-SS Wrote:also..you're all dumb for not just getting something with 4WD to drive in the snow, if thats really what you want to be doing. My Jeep/Blazer/Truck were all infinitely better in snow than my legacy, no matter what tires either of them were on
I think that's kinda the point of us going off-topic here. Rex's car is AWD, so there really isn't a need to double your tire budget and get winter tires.