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- CaptainHenreh - 04-11-2007

HAULN-SS Wrote:dude, every car i've ever owned has had an oil pan leak, and i have NEVER seen it go any higher than the bottom of the pan. U CRAZY

I'm pretty sure that "Every car you've ever owned" includes many without front drive axles.

Ask Justin about letting oil pan leaks "go".


- HAULN-SS - 04-11-2007

Yeah, all of them. Well, except for my 4x4 and AWD.

Justin, what about letting oil pan leaks go?"

But seriously, in a FWD car is the motor entirely in front of the front axle? And either way - it seems like it'd have to be perfectly wrong for the oil to drip, and fall straight onto the axle...especially with all the wind going under the car..seems like it'd just run down the side of the oil pan, coat the bottom, maybe get some on the underbody of the car - which probably does less harm than good.


- .RJ - 04-11-2007

If its just a drip, then you can probably ignore it - it wont cause a problem. But if you're losing a quart every 2-3 tanks of gas (your quote) or 400-800 miles out of the oil pan, then its going to make a fucking mess.


- Jeff - 04-11-2007

The van had a serious oil pan leak...it made a HELL of a mess. I was loosing about 1qt every 2 weeks. I had to put it on a lift and degrease the whole bottom of it. Even made it to the inside of the timing cover. A small leak (as it has now) is not a big deal. Seriously D, why must you drag things like this out? Some FWD cars have the freakin axel going THROUGH the pan...as in there is a tunnel in the pan that it goes though. Many have axels that travel the whole length of the rear of the pan on the passenger's side (all turbo dodges). So quit running your mouth for the sake of running it.


- HAULN-SS - 04-11-2007

TurboOmni08 Wrote:The van had a serious oil pan leak...it made a HELL of a mess. I was loosing about 1qt every 2 weeks. I had to put it on a lift and degrease the whole bottom of it. Even made it to the inside of the timing cover. A small leak (as it has now) is not a big deal. Seriously D, why must you drag things like this out? Some FWD cars have the freakin axel going THROUGH the pan...as in there is a tunnel in the pan that it goes though. Many have axels that travel the whole length of the rear of the pan on the passenger's side (all turbo dodges). So quit running your mouth for the sake of running it.

I highlighted the things you should think about.


- ScottyB - 04-11-2007

i'm bummed...i was totally sold on the protege5 but after some major digging it turns out they have a very unsettling propensity for eating their rod bearings for no good reason. not to mention oil starvation problems. dammit somebody built a car that doesn't self destruct!!

back to EP's, E36's and WRX's.....


- WRXtranceformed - 04-11-2007

You're not going to get more reliable than a Jap car Scott. I just don't know how good of shape a 10k WRX is going to be.


- JackoliciousLegs - 04-11-2007

WRXtranceformed Wrote:You're not going to get more reliable than a Jap car Scott. I just don't know how good of shape a 10k WRX is going to be.
+1


- .RJ - 04-11-2007

HAULN-SS Wrote:I highlighted the things you should think about.

Loosing a quart of oil in 500 miles is not a small leak!!!!


- JustinG - 04-11-2007

CaptainHenreh Wrote:Ask Justin about letting oil pan leaks "go".

Wasn't a pan leak, it was a leak around the after market sending unit i could never get stopped up.


- HAULN-SS - 04-11-2007

500 miles is barely more than a tank of gas - i'm talking about over 900 - 1500 miles. I assume the focus probably gets 400 miles out of a tank? so call it 3 tanks of gas. one quart of oil. I'm pretty sure i'd live with that before I took it to the shop to get a rear main fixed or something.

Or to put it in a timeframe - every 4 - 6 weeks.


- HAULN-SS - 04-11-2007

Perhaps I should have said 3 - 4 tanks of gas, but since i didnt, i'm saying it now


- .RJ - 04-11-2007

HAULN-SS Wrote:500 miles is barely more than a tank of gas - i'm talking about over 900 - 1500 miles. I assume the focus probably gets 400 miles out of a tank? so call it 3 tanks of gas. one quart of oil. I'm pretty sure i'd live with that before I took it to the shop to get a rear main fixed or something

Goddammit, stop being retarded! You were talking about Rob's car. Rob drives an SVT focus, not a diesel with a 30 gallon tank.

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13.2 gallons x 21 mpg city (and nova is all city driving) = 277 miles, assuming you use the *whole* tank.

2-3 tanks = 500-750 miles.

And if you are leaking that much out of your rear main, then you fry your clutch disc. Have fun with that.


- HAULN-SS - 04-11-2007

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and he'll deliver up to 300 miles

edit: shit, I forgot this was scottys thread, not jacks. But still, pretty decent looking car..especially if the reserve is less than the BIN


- JackoliciousLegs - 04-11-2007

grrrreat... an 02 with 100k for $10.5. 0 maintenance needed right there... obvi.


- HAULN-SS - 04-11-2007

That's pretty shitty gas mileage, i thought they got a lot better than that. I average more than 22 in my subaru, with a 16 gallon tank i normally go at least 350 miles between fillups.

Anyhow - the point is, a small oil leak is hardly worth the effort it could take to fix. Quit being a retard and advocating maintenance that doesnt NEED to be done. Check your oil like you should, and add a bit when it needs it, and wait until it a) gets worse, or b) something else goes wrong and you might as well fix that while you're at it.


- .RJ - 04-11-2007

HAULN-SS Wrote:Anyhow - the point is, a small oil leak is hardly worth the effort it could take to fix.

I said it before, and I'll say it again - losing oil that quickly is not a SMALL leak and it will cause you problems. That was the whole fucking point. Stop being dense.


- ScottyB - 04-11-2007

Dear Leaky Oil Pan Crusaders,

Stop.

Love,

ScottyB



yeah i will have to up my budget. if i want anything reliable with under 75k miles it's gonna be closer to 12k at least. bah.


- HAULN-SS - 04-11-2007

yeah..10k is a little hard to work with. That wrx was the cheapest non-salvage/wrecked/modded one I could find. I looked for like 20 minutes though.


- Sijray21 - 04-11-2007

ScottyB Wrote:yeah i will have to up my budget. if i want anything reliable with under 75k miles it's gonna be closer to 12k at least. bah.

unless you're willing to go 'crappier' then yes Tongue

by 'crappier' i mean used aveos, echos, and festivas :lol: