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- Sijray21 - 09-11-2005
.RJ Wrote:Evan Wrote:you should be able to get a 40-50k job relatively easily.
I dont know about 50k right out of school..... unless you already have a clearance or some serious connections.
some of the bigger consulting agencies started some people off in the mid 50s - no clearance or serious connections. I wouldn't say it's easy, but it's not that far of a stretch.
- .RJ - 09-11-2005
theguywiththeSi Wrote:some of the bigger consulting agencies started some people off in the mid 50s - no clearance or serious connections. I wouldn't say it's easy, but it's not that far of a stretch.
Those jobs are tough to get, and you really need to have your shit together and already have an "in" with the company.
Not saying it cant be done - but coming from JMU with an ISAT degree, well good luck is all I can say. Coming from UVA with a econ or business degree and a little help, sure you can swing that.
- Mike - 09-11-2005
.RJ Wrote:Evan Wrote:you should be able to get a 40-50k job relatively easily.
I dont know about 50k right out of school..... unless you already have a clearance or some serious connections.
most people i know started right around 50 out of school. however, they didn't have isat degrees.
- .RJ - 09-11-2005
In retrospect, I should have done Bus or CIS.... getting a job out of school would have been much better.
- Rex4life - 09-11-2005
what types of jobs are you isat guys working at now, and what was your concentration?
- Feersty - 09-11-2005
I mean I don't think I could have chosen a better match for me in terms of a major. I enjoyed the classes and the content, and learned alot with the major I chose. Although a CS, EIS, or CIS would have pulled more money, they were not something I was especially interested in.
- .RJ - 09-11-2005
Feersty Wrote:Although a CS, EIS, or CIS would have pulled more money, they were not something I was especially interested in.
Most of the time, what you learn in school is not directly applied to your job. The skills you learn can be applied anywhere.
Rex4life Wrote:what types of jobs are you isat guys working at now, and what was your concentration?
I was a manufacturing/engineering concentration with a materials science major...
I now work as a systems analyst/consultant for a software company
- JohnC - 09-11-2005
Not ISAT, but the same building. I was CS - came out of school with a full clearance (thanks to a gov't internship), went to work for Booz Allen Hamilton as an Information Systems Security Engineer (ISSE). Now I'm a Software Engineer / Systems Administrator / Raging Alcoholic with SAIC here in Charlottesville.
- .RJ - 09-11-2005
Clearance + B00z = bling salary
I am just a diligent lackey
- Mike - 09-11-2005
i need a clearance, but it doesn't seem anyone gives them. everybody expects you to have one already, but how does that happen if nobody will hire you for a secure job without it and aggggghhhh i'm rambling!
you all know what i mean
- Jess - 09-11-2005
or you could go to law school
- Mike - 09-11-2005
bleh.... no more school! i'm doing fine
- .RJ - 09-11-2005
Jess Wrote:or you could go to law school
Seriously, who would want to do that!
- Sijray21 - 09-12-2005
i have to admit, i think the clearance is one of the shoe-in's. I have a Full-Secret that was issued by state also from a gov't internship. If you happen to have a TS/SCI clearance then you're pretty much guaranteed to work at a decent place for a good amount of money.
I also think that i should've started with a COB major in finance/accounting or a GIS/IKM/E&M concentration with ISAT. I only have an IKM - ISAT major but i've relied on common business practices and government/consultant experience for the job i have now.
- Andy - 09-12-2005
Rob, you did something in environmental science right? I would think the New Orleans thing would help you score a job. Check with the big engineering firms that have FEMA contracts. I'm sure they need people.
- Feersty - 09-12-2005
jackstands Wrote:Rob, you did something in environmental science right? I would think the New Orleans thing would help you score a job. Check with the big engineering firms that have FEMA contracts. I'm sure they need people.
Yes, I was definitely thinking about that as I saw it unfold. I have applied with HydroGeoLogic which if you look in the Times Business section is doing a lot of work there. I applied for an Environmental Scientist job, and asked for $40,000 and they said they had nothing available at that pay. So I reconsidered at $35,000. Haven't gotten an interview with them yet though.
Note: I have not been offered anything yet, it was just the interviews that went well. CSC has yet to get back, and ECC is probably gonna take another week to call.
- Feersty - 09-12-2005
theguywiththeSi Wrote:I also think that i should've started with a COB major in finance/accounting or a GIS/IKM/E&M concentration with ISAT. I only have an IKM - ISAT major but i've relied on common business practices and government/consultant experience for the job i have now.
Yeah that would of made you very well rounded. Yeah I don't care for business, finance, or accounting but it is so pertinent in this day and age. I didn't want to walk from ISAT to Showker either. :wink:
- Sijray21 - 09-12-2005
Feersty Wrote:Yeah that would of made you very well rounded. Yeah I don't care for business, finance, or accounting but it is so pertinent in this day and age. I didn't want to walk from ISAT to Showker either. :wink:
shit, isat from showker was a breeze, lol. I remember when i had to go from Jackson to isat....that was a bitch. 15 minutes to get across campus isn't impossible, but you can't leave late. I kinda liked showker as a building though, gecon and gbus were the only classes i had in there.
- JohnC - 09-12-2005
Back in my day... I had to make the ISAT -> Music Building trip twice a day, and sometimes on to Anthony Seeger. This after walking from Old Mill in the morning, uphill both directions through snow drifts.
- Mike - 09-12-2005
rob, definitely get in touch with fema. i know they're hiring, but be prepared for 7 day work weeks right now...