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Re: Automotive News Discussion - fiveoh2go - 07-29-2015
Evan Wrote:fiveoh2go Wrote:That time of the month DJ?the time? its idiot-fanboy-posting-stupid-shit-he-knows-nothing-about o' clock.
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Re: Automotive News Discussion - ScottyB - 07-29-2015
hey guys my subaru turned 125k miles yesterday, they're super reliable
Re: Automotive News Discussion - RawrImAMonster - 07-29-2015
2016 Focus RS pricing to start at ~$36,000. I'd take that over the current STi or Golf R any day, especially since it has a good bit more power than either. Subaru needs to get rid of the damn EJ25.
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Re: Automotive News Discussion - rherold9 - 07-29-2015
RawrImAMonster Wrote:2016 Focus RS pricing to start at ~$36,000. I'd take that over the current STi or Golf R any day, especially since it has a good bit more power than either. Subaru needs to get rid of the damn EJ25.That's all fun and games until the stupid eLSD and brake vectoring crap comes into play.
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Ask Jake how terrible his brakes got on his ST because of it.
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Re: Automotive News Discussion - D_Eclipse9916 - 07-29-2015
rherold9 Wrote:RawrImAMonster Wrote:2016 Focus RS pricing to start at ~$36,000. I'd take that over the current STi or Golf R any day, especially since it has a good bit more power than either. Subaru needs to get rid of the damn EJ25.That's all fun and games until the stupid eLSD and brake vectoring crap comes into play.
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Ask Jake how terrible his brakes got on his ST because of it.
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Re: Automotive News Discussion - G.Irish - 07-29-2015
The RS uses a smart diff in the rear for torque vectoring. There may be some corner-braking VSA system but the torque-vectoring is not using the brakes. The RS has better brakes than the ST (it has to really) so I think it'll be fine on that front.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - SlimKlim - 07-29-2015
RawrImAMonster Wrote:2016 Focus RS pricing to start at ~$36,000. I'd take that over the current STi or Golf R any day, especially since it has a good bit more power than either. Subaru needs to get rid of the damn EJ25.
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Yeah but fully loaded the Golf R is $1k less and has adjustable suspension and flappy-paddles.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - JPolen01 - 07-29-2015
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:rherold9 Wrote:That's all fun and games until the stupid eLSD and brake vectoring crap comes into play.
Ask Jake how terrible his brakes got on his ST because of it.
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Re: Automotive News Discussion - RawrImAMonster - 07-29-2015
SlimKlim Wrote:RawrImAMonster Wrote:2016 Focus RS pricing to start at ~$36,000. I'd take that over the current STi or Golf R any day, especially since it has a good bit more power than either. Subaru needs to get rid of the damn EJ25.
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Yeah but fully loaded the Golf R is $1k less and has adjustable suspension and flappy-paddles.
Yeah, but who wants an automatic on a car like this? Also, 50 hp more from the factory. Also, Focus is not German. :lol:
Actually, this Focus is going to be built in Germany, which is worrying.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - SlimKlim - 07-29-2015
RawrImAMonster Wrote:SlimKlim Wrote:RawrImAMonster Wrote:2016 Focus RS pricing to start at ~$36,000. I'd take that over the current STi or Golf R any day, especially since it has a good bit more power than either. Subaru needs to get rid of the damn EJ25.
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Yeah but fully loaded the Golf R is $1k less and has adjustable suspension and flappy-paddles.
Yeah, but who wants an automatic on a car like this? Also, 50 hp more from the factory. Also, Focus is not German. :lol:
Me. When it comes to furiously turbocharged tiny little engines a dual clutch is vastly superior and I'm not even sorry about it anymore. You can argue it's not as engaging or whatever the fuck that means, but once you get used to not losing boost on upshifts you just can't go back, I tried when I bought the MK7 and I felt like I was driving something from the 30s. Also, no one seems capable of developing an OEM clutch that can handle 1hp over the stock power figures without melting, might as well just pay the upcharge for a trans that can handle it and finance it with the car, instead of paying $1k for an upgraded clutch at 8000 miles after your tune (and you would eventually get a tune) destroys it.
And that's a very valid point, however a VW isn't a fucking Ford, so guess it just depends on your perspective and brand allegiances. 8)
Re: Automotive News Discussion - RawrImAMonster - 07-29-2015
As far as everything I've seen with 135i's and Evo's, DCT's don't hold up for shit once you start modding. And fixing those is a whole lot more expensive than changing a clutch. Maybe VW's are different, but I doubt it.
Also, the losing boost on newer manual cars isn't really a thing anymore is it? Most of the newer ones have the "no lift to shift" stuff.
Ignoring that, a manual is more fun, which is the whole point of a car like this.
Edit: FWIW, my clutch is holding up perfectly fine at ~100hp over factory. And the car had an old version of the JB4 on it when I got it, so it was modded before I even had it.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - SlimKlim - 07-29-2015
It's backwards in the VW world. The DSGs aren't perfect and do have some issues with the hydraulic units, but you're just as likely to get them with stage 2+ as you are bone stock. The stick shifts on the other hand WILL melt in 10k miles or less with a tune, guaranteed. It's been like that since the MKV came out.
In all seriousness though, I went in to the dealer fully prepared to save money and buy the stickshift, but after driving them back to back I realized how much I really did enjoy the DSG. You get used to the nearly seemless upshifts that let you just ride the torque wave without losing boost, and also brings its own sense of drama with clicks and pops and farts and it sounds like 1st gear is straight cut, which is entertaining in parking garages.
If it was my only car, would I still get it? Probably not, I'd be back in the stone ages with the rest of you people because there really is no replacement for the experience of driving manual, but the dual clutches are getting really, really good. Not "almost as good", or "it's good for what it is", they're good all on their own and offer a unique driving experience, even when you take the convenience or speed factor out of it.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - D_Eclipse9916 - 07-29-2015
JPolen01 Wrote:D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:rherold9 Wrote:That's all fun and games until the stupid eLSD and brake vectoring crap comes into play.
Ask Jake how terrible his brakes got on his ST because of it.
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G.Irish Wrote:The RS uses a smart diff in the rear for torque vectoring. There may be some corner-braking VSA system but the torque-vectoring is not using the brakes. The RS has better brakes than the ST (it has to really) so I think it'll be fine on that front.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - rherold9 - 07-29-2015
D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:I know it's awd still uses the vectoring system.JPolen01 Wrote:D_Eclipse9916 Wrote:rherold9 Wrote:That's all fun and games until the stupid eLSD and brake vectoring crap comes into play.
Ask Jake how terrible his brakes got on his ST because of it.
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G.Irish Wrote:The RS uses a smart diff in the rear for torque vectoring. There may be some corner-braking VSA system but the torque-vectoring is not using the brakes. The RS has better brakes than the ST (it has to really) so I think it'll be fine on that front.
Thank you Gerald for knowing what I meant..... don't know if it as aggressive as it was on Jake's ST, but he said his brakes were toasted sometimes because of it. Hopefully it will all be k and run well.
I'll be eventually looking in that hot hatch category for a car out of college. Hoping on Mazda confirmation in September on a new Speed3...
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Re: Automotive News Discussion - D_Eclipse9916 - 07-29-2015
Reading Comprehension, you still aren't getting it even with G explaining it.
Here ya go:
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Hint: Torque vectoring has nothing to do with the brakes in this baby.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - Evan - 07-29-2015
what the fuck happened to the hate parade?
you guys are all pussies.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - SlimKlim - 07-29-2015
Evan Wrote:what the fuck happened to the hate parade?
you guys are all pussies.
Fuck you Evan.
Happy? :thumbup:
Re: Automotive News Discussion - rherold9 - 07-29-2015
Evan Wrote:what the fuck happened to the hate parade?
you guys are all pussies.
We all aren't internet tough guys/badasses like you.
Makes more sense now DJ. Thanks. Car sounds way more appealing now. This or the new Speed3 if they have one will be what I'm considering...
Re: Automotive News Discussion - JPolen01 - 07-30-2015
Top Gear Trio to join Amazon Video for their new show. Official release from Amazon:
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Quote:London - 30 July 2015 – Amazon today announced that Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May will reunite to make a new car show available exclusively to Amazon Prime members. The show will be produced by the trio’s long time executive producer Andy Wilman.
The award-winning team have committed to three seasons as part of this landmark global TV deal. The first season will go into production soon and is scheduled to premiere for Prime members in 2016.
On working with Amazon, Jeremy Clarkson said: “I feel like I've climbed out of a bi-plane and into a spaceship.”
Richard Hammond added: “Amazon? Oh yes. I have already been there. I got bitten by a bullet ant.”
James May said: “We have become part of the new age of smart TV. Ironic, isn't it?”
“Customers told us they wanted to see the team back on screen, and we are excited to make that happen,” said Jay Marine, Vice President of Amazon Prime Video EU. “Millions of Prime members are already enjoying our ground-breaking original shows. We can’t wait to see what Jeremy, Richard, James and the team will create in what is sure to be one of the most globally anticipated shows of 2016.”
Customers can sign up to receive the latest news on this new show by visiting <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/GuessWhosBack">http://www.amazon.co.uk/GuessWhosBack</a><!-- m -->.
Clarkson, Hammond and May will join top talent making Amazon Original Series that will premiere on Prime Video in 2015 and early 2016. These include Hand of God starring Ron Perlman (Sons of Anarchy) and Dana Delany (Body of Proof), Red Oaks starring Craig Roberts (Submarine) and Paul Reiser (Mad About You), The Man in the High Castle from Executive Producer of The X-Files Frank Spotnitz and Executive Producer Ridley Scott (Blade Runner), the company’s first docu-series, The New Yorker Presents, as well as second seasons of the multi-Golden Globe-winning comedy Transparent, Mozart in the Jungle starring Gael Garcia Bernal (Rosewater) and Bernadette Peters (Smash), and Bosch, from Michael Connelly and starring Titus Welliver (Lost).
Amazon also resurrected hit British drama Ripper Street, starring Matthew Macfadyen (Spooks), Jerome Flynn (Game of Thrones), Adam Rothenberg (The Divide) and MyAnna Buring (The Twilight Saga). Amazon produced third series of the Victorian crime drama launched in November 2014 to critical and customer acclaim; a fourth season of the show is now in production.
“This is a golden age of television, a great time for TV makers and storytellers,” added Jay Marine. “Our approach is to give programme makers creative freedom to be innovative and make the shows they want to make. This is just the start, you should expect to see more world-leading talent and the biggest shows on Prime Video.”
Prime members can enjoy Amazon Original Series and other Prime Video movies and TV shows using the Amazon Video app. The Amazon Video app is available on hundreds of devices including Amazon Fire TV, Fire TV Stick, Roku, smart TVs and Blu-ray players from Samsung, Sony, LG, and Panasonic, the Xbox, PlayStation, and Wii game consoles, as well as on mobile devices like Fire tablets, Fire phone, iPhone, iPad, and Android tablets and phones. Customers can also watch online at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/primevideo">http://www.amazon.co.uk/primevideo</a><!-- m -->.
Re: Automotive News Discussion - WRXtranceformed - 07-30-2015
Jon beat me to it, that is awesome! Now I don't have to subscribe to Netflix to see it :p