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- CaptainHenreh - 10-22-2007
Andy Wrote:Not a platform car. It's on its own "Premium Midship Platform"
Translation: Platform Car.
- .RJ - 10-22-2007
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Transration: Pratform Car.
Just trying to help Andy understand.
- Andy - 10-22-2007
Thanks RJ. I didn't know what Rex was talking about. Seriously though, if Nissan says it's not a platform car, why is it a platform car? I get the skyline is a G-coupe but the GTR is on its own platform. No?
- CaptainHenreh - 10-22-2007
Dude, it's even in the name, "Prime Midship Platform". It's just a modified FM platform, using some exotic composites in the unibody. This isn't a bad thing, but let's not kid ourselves, it's not like Nissan developed 100% new tooling for the GT-R or that Renault isn't at least thinking about a "Le SuperVoiture" based on the same platform (Oh, there's that word again.)
I'm not saying it's a G35 with a body kit and a hot motor. But it pretty much is to the FM cars what the Z06 vette is to the mundane vette.
- G.Irish - 10-22-2007
Yeah I think that had this car been designed totally from the ground up it could have been quite a bit lighter. I think the thing with the FM (and by proxy the PM) platform has been that it was compromised a bit in order to be flexible which has made the sports/sporty cars built on the platform heavier than they needed to be.
The upside to platform sharing is lower cost. At $80k its not cheap but for what it is, I think its not bad.
Again though, I wouldn't ride on the Nurburgring lap time bandwagon just yet. Let's wait until there are some controlled comparos.
- Goodspeed - 10-25-2007
ScottyB Wrote:"The record lap would be set by Nissan's top shoe, Suzuki-san, who ultimately turned in a lap in 7 minutes, 38 seconds on a partially wet circuit."
On-board video of that 7 min 38 sec lap
- BLINGMW - 10-25-2007
t'would be really nice to see a higher res version of that....
- Goodspeed - 10-25-2007
Found some more videos here, click on the "2" bar on the top to reach the video page, with autobahn/nurburgring footage among others
http://www2.nissan.co.jp/GT-R/R35/0710/index.html
- G.Irish - 10-25-2007
When Nissan unveiled the GTR here they started it out with 3 huge video screens above the stage. They showed them tested the car and what not, then they started the onboard lap with the lap timer in big numbers on the screen. At the end of the lap it stopped on the 7:38.54 and it said, "The legend is real" and that is when they rolled out the car. A very well done marketing move if I do say so myself.
Carlos Ghosn didn't really say much that no one else doesn't already know. He said the US would be getting the car in 2008 (I think he said summer) and that they'd be racing the car in Super GT. Personally I would've liked to hear them say they were going to race at Le Mans or something.
Good for Nissan. Other than the porky weight one really could not have asked for them to do a much better job.
- Mike - 10-25-2007
G.Irish Wrote:Good for Nissan. Other than the porky weight one really could not have asked for them to do a much better job.
They could have not made it hideous.
- G.Irish - 10-25-2007
Eh, all of the Skylines are brutish and not exactly pretty. This one is no different but in person it looks better than the R34.
- Mike - 10-25-2007
really? hrmph... it doesn't in pictures. then again the r34 looks great in pics and not so much in person.
hrug:
- ScottyB - 11-13-2007
hahaha
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- Evan - 11-13-2007
lol!
GTR is the car version of Chuck Norris
"Nissan GT-R engineer J. Christ to create blog related to his work with the physics-bending car. First entry to be titled "My dad didn't help me. Honest."
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submitted a couple, will see if they make it up there
- G.Irish - 11-14-2007
US Spec GTR will start at $69,850. Not too bad.
A rumor we heard at TMS was that somehow you'd be able to download driving data from the GTR to a PS3 with GT5 or vice versa. Something silly like that. I'm like riiiiggghhttt.
From the GTR website:
Quote:Driver-configurable performance monitor, developed with Sony® Polyphony, with graphical readouts of vehicle data and driving data displayed on a total of 11 screens.
I guess it just means you'll have screens that look like they're out of GT showing some sort of data. There's a CF card slot in the car too, don't know what that could be for. Maybe music? *shrugs*
Comes standard with Navi apparently *thumbup*
Overall not a bad bargain. Not my kind of car really but pretty cool.
- Andy - 12-19-2007
GTR=485hp, 3836 lbs.
1/4 mile = 11.6 at 120
0-60 in 3.3 secs
C6 z06 = 505hp, 3130lbs
1/4 = 11.3
0-60 = 3.7 secs
How can a car with less HP's and weighs more gets comparable times? Nissan couldn't possible under rate their motor by that much, right? Maybe the ATTESSA AWD can slow down time with pokemon power.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/19/inside-line-tests-nissan-gt-r-oh-yes-its-very-fast/
- PDenbigh - 12-19-2007
AWD? Better launch?
- CaptainHenreh - 12-19-2007
Andy Wrote:GTR=485hp, 3836 lbs.
1/4 mile = 11.6 at 120
0-60 in 3.3 secs
C6 z06 = 505hp, 3130lbs
1/4 = 11.3
0-60 = 3.7 secs
How can a car with less HP's and weighs more gets comparable times? Nissan couldn't possible under rate their motor by that much, right? Maybe the ATTESSA AWD can slow down time with pokemon power.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/19/inside-line-tests-nissan-gt-r-oh-yes-its-very-fast/
3 things:
Traction
Gearing
Shifts
The 227 HP WRX beats the MS3 in both the 0-60 and the quartermile, despite being down a whopping 40 horsepower and about the same weight.
Does the WRX have magic pokemon power? It sure doesn't in the sprint to 100.
- Maengelito - 12-19-2007
CaptainHenreh Wrote:Does the WRX have magic pokemon power? It sure doesn't in the sprint to 100.
understeer, i choose you!
- HAULN-SS - 12-19-2007
I'd be more concerned about the weight than down 20hp which is almost negligible. To have gearing in there to make up for 700 lbs, i'm guessing the cars topend must be quite a bit lower than the vettes.